well these rusty bucket has been in good hand destroying targets with agm88 and gbu39. not to forget that f16 is doing good destroying incoming kh101.
on the other side, they not doing as much as they are capabale, yes sometime to time they launch r37m destroying mig29 and su27, but most of the part its only striking.
so yeah both side are doing good in their way, is it the wrong way ? idk i dont make war
yeah sure
The first use of these weapons occurred when the conflict had already been going on for half a year.
This is literally an illustration of the balance of power between the sides in 2022.
Also would like to point out, su-34/30sm/35s are usually dispensable airframes. They are continuously developing long range Fab UMPK systems over 100kms to avoid getting shot down but we have heard reports of how ukranians move in a patriot system close to a frontline where they know su-34s are getting use regularly. I believe 2 months ago is where they moved up a system to be able to shoot down the su34 and managed successfully.
Dont think the su-57s would be risked in any case with how expensive overall and deep security risk it would be to lose such an airframe. So its not wrong when, they usually launch the cruise missiles from afar. Some variants of the patriot missile can have more than 150km of range, considering the su-34 audio where they narrowly escaped over the city of mariupol which is insanely far away. Thats quite risky for any 5th gen to go keep occurring closely to such frontline distances giving its rcs away in such low numbers
Also, we know the ukranians patriot systems have different missiles or hybrid configuration i suppose because such as the pac-3 mse missiles have been spotted before, so they do have some variety of patriot missiles.
Quite literally nothing you said here is correct
Ukranian radar pages reporting for civilian safety of incoming missile possibility:
All from this month
^ thats just a few examples. You can search in the page of the threat of felons popping up quite a bit. Those are civilian based radars of Ukraine for warnings
Also russian advertisement Su-57 with Kh-69
Idk what reality you live in or tell others what they are correct on when you provide no proof. Ive provided mine. Case closed
Literally all of the “sources” you list reference each other which also don’t reference any real source (UA radar is not that bad bud it’s not great either)
I live in the reality where absurd nonsense such as “su57 was used because kh69 was used” is considered acceptable evidence. That is nonsense which relies on further nonsensical assumptions about the development of the kh69, The su57 is used in marketing!1!1!1!1! That must mean this big standard cruise missile developed from an extremely widespread compatible weapon system was changed so that just this extremely rare aircraft which is produced at a snail pace is the only delivery system.
Stop the nonsense.
I recommend just posting screenshots of those groups and not just link the telegram before your post most likely gets deleted lol
All that you said is whole lotta nothing no evidence. Stop your own nonsense.
then post a single picture of a kh-69 being used on anything that isnt the Su-57
That’s on you mate. You’re the one making the absurd claims
Thats on you as well, youre the one making absurd claims that it is compatible when there is 0 proof it is with the rest of ru aviation airframes.
Plain delusion. I see you’re right back claiming this after months despite you quite literally admitting that kh69 being limited to su57 would be extremely unlikely.
and yet it wasnt seen on anything but the Su-57
No I am not. You claim su57 has seen combat, and your only real evidence is that kh69 was confirmed used. It’s on you to prove that the weapon system is somehow exclusive to it (despite all circumstancial evidence to the contrary)
It was seen on one or two occasions and it wasn’t in combat configurations either. But go on.
then show us the footage/ pictures of it being used on anything but the Su-57
Again, youre the one who is continuing to claim the kh-69 is compatiable with all airframes which has not been proven, the only thing that has been proven is that the su-57 is the only airframe been promoted with the kh-69s. So far my evidence isnt on a base of dreamy theory. And ive proved mine, with osints/civilian ukranian radars, who are reporting from the battlefield prolly know more than you.
You do realize the kh69 is literally just a kh59mk2? And as such is compatible with all the same aircraft. I haven’t had to deal with this such insane levels of cope in a while I’m quite done you’re getting ignored for a while after this, especially cause I don’t enjoy arguing with people that months after they admit they were wrong go back to believing nonsense.
sure then post a picture of the Kh-59MK2 being used on anything but the Su-57
in what universe is asking for a picture coping
Couldnt care what you said, just prove it. Otherwise its quite much nonsense.
