Fair enough i guess.
I thought these were self-evident questions for anyone who plays a modern air-combat game. Turns out that’s not really true, so I admit I was wrong. After all, War Thunder isn’t DCS.
Ah, severe case of elitism, got it. Rest easy now, i won’t bother you with any questions anymore.
What does elitism have to do with it? I didn’t mean anything negative.
Obviously you gonna say exactly that.
It seems to me that we’ve drifted away from the discussion about the Su-57 and its shortcomings as a 5gen fighter.
You’ve only realised it now?
I’m inclined towards millenium’s position, it’s a different conflict showing many “legacy” strategies don’t work anymore:
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What’s so different about the high and fast air superiority though?
on the ground, at sea, and at lower altitudes it’s certainly very different but what happened with regular air superiority?
It looks to me it’s the conflict of ‘cheap but it just works’ stuff, even on the high and fast aspect of air combat. People are just gonna keep their planes outside any possible swarm of modern missiles.
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That is what it seems like, air forces are starting to prioritise absolute standoff, for both A-A & A-G
It’s strange that Israel doesn’t follow that kind of tactic. Actually, no one does, lol.
well, those who have quite bad airforce do
Surely they won’t mind sending the F35s to the fronts, then.
I’m under no illusion that a F22, J20 or SU57 won’t be shot down if sent near ‘ground zero’, it happened to Leopards 2, Abrams, F117s, and it’ll happen to whatever you send there.
It still gives an opportunity for Russia to collect data on the F-35’s, so your point is only partially true.
F-117 was due to complacency
Israel gets complete air superiority wherever it flies, so they don’t need to adopt a cautious strategy like Russia is
They do though, F-35Is played a crucial role in the Iran strikes, qatar strikes and have completed hundreds of sorties over Lebanon
Yeah, but I’m referring to the ukr/ru conflict, though.
Interesting proposal. Now we just need to find someone who will pay for it.
But for some reason that didn’t happen with the F-35. Why is that?
Because it’s not there?