That’s what I thought, of course it’s respected by you when it conveniently lines up what what you believe. Anyways, that isn’t a Byelka on the comparison, and the Byelka has 1,514 TRM while APG-77 has around 2000
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Again you don’t know. You can find Byelka calculation on other of his graphic. With early info about Byelka its have about same range of IRBIS. In radar not everything its about the amount of TM. IRBIS only have around 1850. And still top APG77.
according to what? do you know the peak power for the main radar on the Su-57?
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I asked you the same thing like 4 post ago. About apg77 being better. You just bring USA cope and propaganda like 0,000000001 RCS. I show you calculation done by someone regarded as unbiased by a lot of people on important aviation forum. Using mathematic formula. And you still cope with your propaganda and arrogance. He is also the guy that every one ask if L-band radar on Su-57 can be use as a normal radar (he denied that capability until better TM can be made). And the guy that has done all RCS calculation and even the one that are badly made from that 101 page.
Edit; His calculation and excel are free on Secret project if you want to do it yourself.
i said it was only better in the main front facing radar (going off peak power and TRM count), and that the Su-57 had way better coverage/awareness
are you sure the guy isnt just adding up the total of the 3 seperate radars?
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This is what you said.
Also no. People or Russian Fan has try to make the argument that the 3 radar could be used as one. But he has totally denied that capability.
I should’ve been more clear, I mean if the APG-77 was added by itself. The original question asked for a comparison for the F-22 first
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Well if the F-22 was add alone, sure.
Edit; Also its unknow what variant of the F-22 gaijin will add. Maybe its the one with apg77v1 or 4.
Are you gonna call this propaganda? I don’t understand the hate boner for American 5th gens
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people are angry that their country cant make such a thing… pretty sure thats not first time
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I’m curious, where have you heard of the APG-77v4?
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no hate dude, but that is probably indeed propoganda
RCS isnt a number which you can throw in someones face, it highly depends on angle and the frequency. None of which was told for this value.
There are rcs simulations out there considering the geometric stealth of f22, which gave -17dbsm minimum RCS at a certain angle. To reach that -40dbsm, you would need a ram capable of reducing -23dbsm at that specific frequency, which is still a nominal amount, but that would still only achieve -40dbsm at a specific angle. To get the average -40dbsm frequency, you would need a ram capable of -30 to -35dbsm, which would be pretty crazy and will make sense to be put on something like f16 and f15 for a crazy good bvr advantage, but it doesnt happen.
And its been known RCS values publicly known are just a hoax, this was done to prevent soviet analyst acquire real rcs values of the stealth jets in case of a leak through the media, heck the CIA said this for the B-2 spirit bomber, and they already started doing so for the F-22 programme before it even existed
TLDR the -40dbsm is likely not possible, or if it does, it is probably in some weird frequency from a small angle
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yeah ik, i was assuming this would be most likely frontal aspect rcs
it doesnt even seem frontal, by specific i meant like real specific angle, almost all the sims ive seen, the minimum value for f22 is like 10 degrees offset from the frontal point
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They do have Have Glass for the F-16’s which helps them, but they probably don’t put Raptor RAM, as great as it is, on F-15 and F-16 because it’s expensive, not really necessary, and is a huge maintenance headache for aircraft whose advantage over the F-22 is ease and speed of maintenance
RAM coating also wouldn’t pair as well with an F-15 than an F-22 or F-35 since they carry weapons externally and the airframes themselves are not stealthy
It probably is. F35 should have lower rcs compared to the 22 for multiple reasons from most observed aspects
You can’t compare the advantages of the Su-57 to the disadvantages of the F-22, just like comparing the payload capacity of a lightweight fighter to that of a bomber.
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we are comparing one 5th gen air supiriority fighter to another one
what you are saying dosent makes any sense