Is the Su-57 really worse than the F-22?

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1290

To be fair Lockheed is currently working on a series of mods to the F35 which are being referred to as NASCAR upgrades. Hopefully there is a market for them.

1291

im skeptical theres a market outside the us, there is definetly one inside though. maybe israel, but here in italy we are quite satisfied with it as is it seems. maybe as an mlu upgrade before tempest

1292

Yeah, I’m skeptical as well. I’m mostly hoping that it is successful so Lockheed doesn’t rust. The upgrades supposedly include lessons they learned from their partially complete 6th gen fighter development.

1293

the Marines for sure, and the Navy will probably want some since F/A-XX is pretty rocky right now. I think the UK might want some MLU F-35B to have a better carrier air wing

1294

GLSDB is fine.
More than fine
Even with jamming their air launched counterpart - SDB - are being used quite effectively

1295

its fine today, after boeing fixed its weakness to jamming, much the same as excalibur shells.

1296

Just a question, how good is the F-22 radar?

Please compare it to something that is in the game, like, its better than ____ but not as good as ____

Same with the su57 please!

Thanks.

1297

If the F-22 was added, it’s radar would the best in the game by far, insane range, scan time, ECM resistance. Take everything good about the Rafale and F-2 radar and make it better. The Su-57 main radar isn’t quite as powerful as the F-22’s iirc but the side facing radars in the nose give it really good situational awareness

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1298

Thanks man!

What line would the f22 be in?

1299

Just worser than rafale.
Cus only difference that matters in game - gimbal limits

1300

Both are fixed plate AESA iirc, so probably have same gimbal

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1301

Rafalr in game has ±70.
All sources report that raptor is ±60.

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1302

Isn’t there some limit on how much gimbal a fixed plate AESA can have?

1303

I think source for Rafale was like some newspaper

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1304

I’s say surely in second line under the F-15s, while the F-35s go to first and third lines and the newer F-15s (F-15EX, et ) go to fifth line

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1305

under F-15C and ill put GE on it

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1306

By GE what do you mean

1307

golden eagles

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1308

Oh hell naw
Don’t screw ftp players like that
Oh wait do you mean you’d bet golden eagles that it’ll be there?

1309

yeah its a bet

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