under ideal conditions it might but this wouldnt be that hard to mess with
yep, i think you can mess up its ranging with multi-spectral flares
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i have heard the F-35 new sensor has this capability too, to accurately range through triangulation
might be harder to counter comaped to a fixed database
this is basically visual identification and size matching with the dimensions of the target aircraft stored in the data
basically theyre the same, triangulation is the method used, the database is the data
i have heard it can use datalink to do this too, with more than 1 F-35 looking at the tagret then it would be more accurate in triangulation no?
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i think the F-35 has LRF no?
and yes with two F-35s, it will basically give a precise location to target (WRT GPS even)
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They reuse the same tech as PIRATE. That was my point.
Unequivocally false, it just requires a lot of software, PIRATE has a virtually instantaneous refresh rate and rapidly compares the micro differences in UV and IR signature to obtain a range.
Pirate was initially software limited to 70km due to this but thats since been lifted.
PIRATE uses software to ignore things that do not exhibit ‘aircraft like characteristics’ and does not display them it is also essentially IIR. A flare like BOL which is Pyrophoric would block tbe sensor, but it would still be able to track the range of said flare if it couldn’t see through it which is what BOL does.
I’d be happy to link you some reports to the operating systems of PIRATE when i get home.
well yeah i get they use the same concept but its not the exact same tech
exactly but theres only so much air UV or IR radiation can go thru before its too weak to detect
but if you block the FOV or the targets IR/UV silhouette, you effectively go behind hard cover and mess up the range of target
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and what happens if you just go from AB to regular mil power back and forth to screw the sensor up?
the aircraft chassis doesnt change in size so, AB → mil wont rlly do much
but doesnt it use the IR signature? if you switch between the two itll affect the signature consdierably
the fuselage itself also gives off a pretty substantial IR signature, which is why IRST can track it even if the engine turns off
well yeah, but shouldnt the change in IR signature from AB confuse the sensor?
not really, the fuselage dimensions are saved in the database, the AB jet flame isnt rlly going to change that aside from act like a torch on the IR spectrum
so detection range will be increased but range to target wont rlly be changing
ah ok.
to get back on topic, in report on F-22 EW suite, it was stated that if the enemy wasnt careful in their use of radar, the RWR on F-22 could provide enough information for an AMRAAM launch.
luckily for us, “not careful in their use of radar” is most of the WT playerbase
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Which is why its accurate to 0.01°k and the range is stated at 150-165km at optimum which is then further stated to be a look up, high altitude scenario against a target with RAM going supersonic.
To which it then immediately reacquires the target, and thats also only relevant to Pyrophoric flares in the rear aspect, spectral flares don’t completely cover the target and given again its an IIR seeker so would not be relevant.
PIRATE primarily detects airframe signature not afterburner or exhaust plume. This is deliberate and thats what sets it apart from traditional irst systems.
Equally it uses software to filter out targets with unrealistically high uv or ir signatures as it knows theyre flares.
It has a databank of known targets to compare incoming signatures with and can make a 3d ir image of a target from 50km away.
so its weakness is new airframes? pirate wouldnt be nearly as good vs like a B-2 or something (i doubt they have its IR signature recorded)
accuracy aside, the other conditions are very ‘best-case’. irl with clouds, and humidity, this range would not be higher than half of the radar range. even 74km just by IR/UV is near impossible for me to believe.
so monarch is another russian shill