Is the Su-57 really worse than the F-22?

to sum it all up

Su-57:

  • Mediocre stealth at best
  • Good weaponry
  • Impressive slowscan and fastscan radar
  • Impressive manoeuvrability
  • IRST

F-22:

  • Best stealth up till date
  • Decent weaponry
  • Decent radar
  • Impressive manoeuvrability

All good lol, keep it in mind next time tho

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All unsubstantiated and unproven, btw. Should be adding asterisks to those assessments.

R-37M is pretty good, so is R-77M
57 has different band radars to pick up low observable aircraft
locking may be impossible i admit, but thats why it has IRST
it also has TVC and that is proven

Most military publications assume that Su-57 is not really stealthy. Thats already it.

Otherwise they would use it in this ongoing war. But they didn’t. If it would be a real stealth jet, they could strike anywhere they want. Similar like Israel does it in the middle east with its stealth squadrons.

Above picture shows nothing but a gutted frame, while the below photos don’t show the fan stage at all… Because believe it or not, a terrible render of T-50-03 does not show the inlet radar absorbers, as it didn’t exist 9 years ago.

He claims you can see the engine itself from the intake. You simply can’t. Your photos even show this.

Those absolutely are bolts, specifically called aerospace grade screws because of the way they thread into the skin of the craft.

If you want a comparison, it’s already been done.

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Do you mean F-35? I wasn’t aware of Israel owning any F-22.

Yes, indeed.

Those aren’t, the graphic was made during a time when the intake blockers did not exist. That’s simply showing one of the regulated ramps and its possibilities.

ah my bad

tbf even an f-22 pilot wouldnt pass anywhere near 40km of a hostile patriot SAM site

They did? It’s conducted multiple strikes beyond the southern seaboard in its adaptation of X-59.
Hell… There’s even a claim that it was used to guide a missile to an enemy, and so far the crash sight and claims of placement add up. There’s even proof of 81775 stationed in Belbek at the time of the shootdown, as well as flights of Su-57s being common from August '22 to November '22 in the area.

They do, but stealth is irrelevant in this sense. Even an Su-34 can strike further than an Su-57, all it has to do is climb high enough to fire off a missile.

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Man i have no idea why, but i read your messages with Egyptian accent 🤪

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It can be spotted by any system that uses LOW FREQUENCY(it’s important) radar (S-400 for example(bad example but let’s keep it)) or systems like Kolchuga (radio intelligence station) which essentially finds you by sniffing onto YOUR radio transmissions or radar search “beams”.

Howewer, these systems (both low frequency radar and “radio sniffer”) can not lock onto the F-22 to work out any sort of intercept option. Only give a rough information to patrolling airplanes in the area.

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any half decent ship based AESA would track a stealth jet at this point in time, assuming it gets close enough

if F22 was adapted to carry anti SAM missiles or antiship missiles, then it’s probable it could attack without issues.

With dumb bombs or even LGBs however, it’s basically suicide mission

And let’s not mention IRST, plane or ship based, those thing can give a consistent track and feed it to a 3rd party (missile).

Then again it doesn’t really matter since it’s not f22s job

About planes it’s no, ships - more complicated. If we take Russia as example, most of airplanes can’t guide a missile using data from IRST station, at least it is so for all of known MiG and most of the Su that are in service and more than 10 are produced(only Su-35 and theoretically 57 can do said thing) . I assume from the information i know about those airframes.

I don’t have such a photo - if you do please post it and “negate [my] argument”.

Here’s an article that examines claims there is a “radar blocker” hiding the engine - but they are unable to replicate the claim using the images referred to in the claim.

You’d have such a photo if you spent literally 13 seconds (even timed myself for you) on google with the words “Su-57 intake”.

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No fan blades! Wouldja look at that!
If you looked at Sukhoi’s own design brochure from the Akhtubinsk state flight research center, you’d see exactly what these are…

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I’ll give you props, as the article you linked did show this intake blocker. It’s immediately taken away by you blatantly lying about the article’s statements, though.
They didn’t say they weren’t able to replicate it, they said “weren’t able to obtain the same level of detail”.

All your good work undone by this bit of drivel.