Is the requirement for economy / progression suggestions too high?

I’m talking about planes, not SPAA. Mentioned right before the part you quoted.

Well I’m glad other planes can whilst the SPAA still dies because only Russia is allowed effective radar.
I posted the radar ranges of SPAA so I don’t know why you made it about planes, as if there is some sort of synergy between systems.

So CAS is to easy to spawn, but now Aircraft aren’t a guaranteed spawn.

You’re getting it.

Choosing not to embrace the entirety of the game available to you is a personal issue

Embracing means permanently sitting on anti-CAS duty and not playing tanks, combined arms is only ever used in defense of abusive CAS and never in support of ground forces, which are player controlled ground targets.

No, usually I die to another ground vehicle first. When I spawn an SPAA it is usually before enemy aircraft are up, and I usually don’t die to SPAA in the BRs that I play them.

So your first death is within the first 2-3 minutes of the game, you spawn SPAA and no planes are up so it’s a roll of the dice if there is even anything to do, you might be wasting your time, you might die from something and now you’re back in an MBT and CAS is still spawning so back to SPAA I guess.

Because aircraft are a better counter to 11.7+ planes than SPAA. I have been talking about planes since I mentioned countering top down attacks with SARH missiles.

So your argument is just a contradiction.

Warthunder is a combined arms game. It states it in the websites FAQ about the game. It isn’t a defense for anything, it is how the game is designed. The entire game is about combined arms, no game type only has 1 type of vehicle present in the mode. Air is a slight exception, because the ground units present aren’t player controlled, but it still has air, ground, and naval elements.

You guess wrong. But I’m not going to try to explain it further since you haven’t understood it thusfar.

Because aircraft are a better counter to 11.7+ planes than SPAA. I have been talking about planes since I mentioned countering top down attacks with SARH missiles.

Also a vastly more expensive option relative to SPAA and not as rewarding as just spawning your own CAS instead.

So your argument is just a contradiction.

Something being easy to spawn is not the same thing as people endlessly doing it, guaranteed spawn meaning it’s not a guarantee that people will spawn it, which means you’re wasting time.

Air is a slight exception

Ground units being AI or player controlled is pretty much the same thing at this point. Where is the ground mode with AI controlled planes then.

More expensive, yet more effective. Not as rewarding for you, but could sway the gamenin your teams favor increasing rewards for everyone.

Where are the player controlled SPAA in air? You won’t even play SPAA in ground battles, noone would ever queue for SPAA in air battles. If there was AI controlled CAS you’d probably still die to it and complain anyway.

Again, being proactive in combat is more effective than being reactive. Wasted time when you are prepared for a threat is better than being caught off guard.

Not as rewarding for you, but could sway the gamenin your teams favor increasing rewards for everyone.

Yet I am playing the game to progress my ground tree, if I have to fly in a plane all day long why am I not just playing an air mode?

You won’t even play SPAA in ground battles

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Again, being proactive in combat is more effective than being reactive. Wasted time when you are prepared for a threat is better than being caught off guard.

And I still never get to actually play tanks.

Combined arms where you can play tanks and aircraft.

You can always play tank, but then you have to deal with air

Combined arms where it’s 2 minutes of tanks before planes shit on everything else.

Combined arms where people complain about the vehicles they should expect to see in game and get mad when they are told to counter them.

Combined arms where one of the arms is clearly superior to the other to a point where you cannot play it and instead having to permanently player a counter role to due how powerful it is.

Okay but combined legs when

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Combined arms where you can easily counter one arm with that same arm, but players aren’t willing to play the counters and just sit around and cry.

Nothing is a guaranteed counter, plain and simple, and all counters prevent you from playing ground forces. It’s nonsense.

Nothing prevents you from playing ground forces, but if you only play ground forces you suffer because of aircraft that you choose to not effectively counter. Tank only tactics don’t work in a combined arms environment.

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