Just because there are a select few of lower BR tanks that can kill it, doesn’t change the fact that majority of them would be quite literally hopeless.
And IS-4 is actually fine where it is as long as you get downtiered. It’s not early HEAT slingers like Ratel, M46, Marder or Fiat that are an issue for this tank. What’s problematic is stuff like Turm 3 with 5s reload and full stabiliser.
I’m aware and don’t care.
Second time you’ve mentioned this tank that dies by anything when its turret gets tickled. It’s actually one of the tanks that an IS-4M would have no problem nuking. It’s the 8.7s that shug off its rounds that are the real problem.
Anyway, I don’t see no harm in a tank getting more rounds even if its a token gesture.
You’d be surprised how many 6.3s (and lower) can penetrate the IS-4M.
Then you shouldn’t get into discussion about balance.
I am mentioning it again, because it’s a perfect example. Turm 3 has been undertiered for ages, it’s an easy 9.0 material.
Just because it’s not hard to kill when caught off guard doesn’t make it any less overpowered
It just shows you’ve got no understanding why the IS-4M is struggling.
Anything that has HEAT-FS and maybe a few tanks with APDS although those will only pen in very few specific areas. On top of that a few HE slingers and maybe Sturer Emil. That will be about it.
I understand it well. It seems like you don’t understand that simply bringing a tank down in BR isn’t a golden solution that will deal with all balance problems.
Go and try playing some 3.0/3.3 when KV-1E comes back around for sale. You will understand why you can’t randomly bring down “super” heavy tanks in BR however you want.
Or alternatively go play some 6.7 US when Maus comes back for anniverary, it should do the trick as well
I play USA 6.7 a lot. Including the M6E1 a lot. When I’m up against the Maus or IS-4M, I typically have something that can easily nuke it, because I bring a line-up. We seem to have different ideas of how well the IS-4M is armoured.
I agree it sucks the way it is now but at 7.3 it will curbstomp hard in downtier, it’s in a weird spot sadly, just like the IS-6
Just because you have some HE slinger in a lineup that can deal with it (if he is clueless that is) doesn’t make it any more balanced.
Having one tank that limits what you can and cannot play at certain BR in certain MM is not healthy for the game.
If you were to get uptiered fro. 6.3, 6.7 or whatever and run into a squad of things like IS-4s you are basically forced to play a few certain things to even have a chance at dealing with them. This is toxic.
Stuff like KV-1B or KV-1E didn’t suddenly become balanced after Gaijin added M44s. No?
IS-6 could go back to 7.3 as it’s turret is fairly vulnerable even to APHE.
IS-4 sadly isn’t in such a spot
Yes tiger II can pen the turrett side if i’m not mistaken, at 7.7 is pretty useless to be honest and if we add the the fact that this tank is premium, one expects it to be good and not junk since you have to pay for it
6.3s should struggle to kill 7.3 heavy, that’s their point lol.
HE slingers aren’t that rare nor are HEAT ones.
IS-4M, Maus, Conqueror, and M103 are all amazing 7.7s.
Su-122 uses a different cannon.
Hard to kill and invulnerable unless you destroy the it’s gun, both tracks, kill everyone supporting him while continuously destroying his gun and drive around him isn’t the same thing.
IS-4M definitely isn’t amazing, but it’s not itself that is a problem, but rather insane compression around early cold war BR areas
There hasn’t been “insane compression” since 2022.
You should know that heavy tanks of all things are by far the most prone to being affected by BR compression.
IS-4M is good in a downtier, maybe decent even up to 8.0 uptier. But anywhere above that it’s just a driving pile of RP and SL for the enemy
There is at maximum 4 top-BR tanks on any enemy team.
At least 75% of the time you’re facing 7.7s and 7.7s with slightly better rounds [8.0s] since 8.3 doesn’t exist as lineups.
Don’t fight 8.7s alone, don’t put yourself in that situation.
You should add your comment to this list it takes into account many vehicles