I play USA 6.7 a lot. Including the M6E1 a lot. When I’m up against the Maus or IS-4M, I typically have something that can easily nuke it, because I bring a line-up. We seem to have different ideas of how well the IS-4M is armoured.
I agree it sucks the way it is now but at 7.3 it will curbstomp hard in downtier, it’s in a weird spot sadly, just like the IS-6
Just because you have some HE slinger in a lineup that can deal with it (if he is clueless that is) doesn’t make it any more balanced.
Having one tank that limits what you can and cannot play at certain BR in certain MM is not healthy for the game.
If you were to get uptiered fro. 6.3, 6.7 or whatever and run into a squad of things like IS-4s you are basically forced to play a few certain things to even have a chance at dealing with them. This is toxic.
Stuff like KV-1B or KV-1E didn’t suddenly become balanced after Gaijin added M44s. No?
IS-6 could go back to 7.3 as it’s turret is fairly vulnerable even to APHE.
IS-4 sadly isn’t in such a spot
Yes tiger II can pen the turrett side if i’m not mistaken, at 7.7 is pretty useless to be honest and if we add the the fact that this tank is premium, one expects it to be good and not junk since you have to pay for it
6.3s should struggle to kill 7.3 heavy, that’s their point lol.
HE slingers aren’t that rare nor are HEAT ones.
IS-4M, Maus, Conqueror, and M103 are all amazing 7.7s.
Su-122 uses a different cannon.
Hard to kill and invulnerable unless you destroy the it’s gun, both tracks, kill everyone supporting him while continuously destroying his gun and drive around him isn’t the same thing.
IS-4M definitely isn’t amazing, but it’s not itself that is a problem, but rather insane compression around early cold war BR areas
There hasn’t been “insane compression” since 2022.
You should know that heavy tanks of all things are by far the most prone to being affected by BR compression.
IS-4M is good in a downtier, maybe decent even up to 8.0 uptier. But anywhere above that it’s just a driving pile of RP and SL for the enemy
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There is at maximum 4 top-BR tanks on any enemy team.
At least 75% of the time you’re facing 7.7s and 7.7s with slightly better rounds [8.0s] since 8.3 doesn’t exist as lineups.
Don’t fight 8.7s alone, don’t put yourself in that situation.
You should add your comment to this list it takes into account many vehicles
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I mean the US has a amazing 8.3 lineup.
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Russia has a pretty good 8.0 / 8.3 lineup too. The T10M is right fun, with two 14.5mm Heavy MGs and that badass 122mm cannon, love the apds on it.
then the T55A while not great is a decent all round tank to have, backed up with an object 906, whatever cas you fancy and the shilka
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How do you mean?
I mean the compression still seems pretty bad as well as the gaps in coverage. Games got a lot of issues of varying type.
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We should definitely also get a reload buff for it
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No IS-4M is op as hell in 7.7 giving him HEAT-FS will be idiotic at this BR
Don’t compare Conqueror to Russian Bias - Conqueror is Usless moste the time because of APDS moronic Shatter not to mention 0 spalling post pene dmg with 500 pene don’t do nothing
M103 on other hand is heavy that can be penetrated from all sides and front , as for all Western tanks weak spots are Huge.
The IS-4M is a 7.0-grade vehicle, and has been ever since the combination of HEATFS, excessively strong APDS, and particularly the flood of derp HE launchers were added to the game en masse. The IS-3 is 6.7 material for similar reasons.
The only things keeping it up where it is are the facts that all the rounds which should penetrate it currently do little to no postpen damage, allowing it to eat shots and fire back when it realistically should perish. Thus the IS-4M suffers by having its armor be deadweight and its barrel shot out when by a miracle not encountering something that renders its armor deadweight, and the opponents fighting it suffer from horrid postpen damage and taking forever to kill it, often having kills stolen or his teammate immolating you before you can finish him.
And you wonder why I have dared suggest restoratively buffing all the currently-neutered ammo types? So heavies like this one lose their “fake survivability” and fall in BR naturally. Pair that with making cannon barrels invincible intentionally, given those clip through objects and terrain already, so that “if you can’t pen it, just shoot the gun” no longer exists, and suddenly the IS-4M finally has a good niche. If you want to frontally kill it, bring an un-nerfed artillery gun that doesn’t care how much armor it has.