All in the title.
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3.7 gun vs 6.7 tanks that can easily lolpen it. Balans
Its a stupid change.
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Last time someone argued with me that he believed tiger 1/panther have the same survivability, so it should be in the same BR
Tiger 1 killed by any 76mm sherman on T-34-85 if frontal armor vs panther with invulnerable UFP.
Then tell actual players to stop winning with all those 3 things significantly more than 50% of the time, getting significantly more than 1:1 KD, or similar.
They didn’t get the memo, apparently, from you, that “these were bad or fine”, they went ahead and did too well in them ANYWAY… so…
Always see it tottally destroyed. With IS-2’s reload you have all time of the world to aim turrret cheeks, Jumbo can be penned in UFP both by D-5T and KwK42. IS-1 is just slower T-34 with some more armor.
Gaijin has no incentive to lie, here. Even if you are of the opinion that they are massive p2w premium vehicle peddlers and stooges to the Kremlin, and blah blah, the jumbo and the tiger are not modern vehicles nor premiums, nor are they in particular mopping the floor with any recent shiny notable premiums, or anything else like that.
So why would you think their stats are wrong in the first place, here?
Their only obvious motivation is that they ARE indeed overperforming, and thus moving them will make matches more balanced and fun.
Because all br changes in this month is super strange. Like 279 vs apfsds. TIIP = TIIH while first have frontal weakspot. And etc.
It’s only strange (sticking to the jumbo and tiger examples) IF you don’t believe their statistics.
Again, considering we are lacking any motivation for them to lie here, WHY don’t you believe their statistics?
I’ll believe the statistics when Gaijin actually presents any instead of going “Just trust us, bros”.
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You already know exactly what they would look like if they published them. BY DEFINITION of how they’ve stated the algorithm works, the published statistics would just be a gigantic list of like 48-52% win rates for every single vehicle (because if it is more extreme than that, it gets moved).
Anyone who doesn’t believe them now is not going to suddenly believe them because they publish a list of 48.5%, 49%, 51%, 50%, 49% win rates.
It’s just pointless. I wouldn’t if I were them, either
Meanwhile, you continue to have stated zero motives for why they would even want to lie.
Do we know what the actual statistics should be? Because Gaijin as stated in the past that they feel certain vehicles should have a certain expected performance, one that isn’t necessarily a roughly 50% WR. But we don’t know because they don’t tell us what they expect.
As to why they’d lie? Well, they do an extremely poor job of processing certain bug reports that don’t align with what they feel is the right thing, even when staring right at the provided documents, so…
They describe it as “battle efficiency” which isn’t strictly win rate or KD, but some blend of win rate, KD, points scored, probably capture of cap points, bombed bases in air mode, etc.
But for sake of expediency of discussion, it’s easier to just act like it’s win rate alone and add a word like “roughly” or “something like”, instead of writing a short essay every time you want to refer to it.
As to why they’d lie? Well, they do an extremely poor job of processing certain bug reports that don’t align with what they feel is the right thing, even when staring right at the provided documents, so…
…? You forgot the part where you actually answer the question and give a reason why they’d lie about this. Still waiting…
Maybe if the panthers and Tiger 1 were staying at the same BR.
Tiger 1 yes. But Panthers which unpenannable even for some tanks even 0.7 br higher no. Jumbo, IS-1 and Tiger 1 was right on their place. They had battle with no winner because no one if them can normally penetrate each other.
Nice of you to move the goalposts from “win rate” which is a fixed, easily discerned statistic to “battle efficiency” which as an amalgamation of several other stats can easily be weighted to produce whatever results the statistician wants.
As to why they would lie? I sincerely don’t know why. Do you have any logical reason why I should trust them given their prior habits of being disingenuous towards their player base?
Oh no! Instead of X thing that you inherently have to take their word for (whether they publish numbers or not), it is instead extremely-similar-to-X but Y thing that you inherently also have to take their word for (whether they publish numbers or not)
That changes EVERYTHING!
“As to why they would lie? I sincerely don’t know why.”
So then it’s a ridiculous thing to assume, and you should stop assuming it, obviously.
“Do you have any logical reason why I should trust the”
Because you can’t think of a reason why they would lie, also known as the best reason to trust anyone in the world in any situation.
Decompression means everything moves up no exceptions
But we have moving compression point, no decompression, late ww2 tanks seeing heatfs again.
HEAT-FS pops up at 5.0 this isn’t changing that reality
Moving everything up decompresses the issue is the log jam at 9.0 - 11.7 because the max BR hasn’t been raised yet