IRIS-T SLM 4km Missile Seeker Change

And wait until you find out your lock range is reduced to like 1.5 km on snow maps, they made this already sad system worse than it already was, all in the name of keeping CAS happy and saving room temperature IQ peeps who bought the Su-30MK2 from having to use 0.1% of their brain capacity. (Curious how the change arrived at the same time as the Su-30MK)

We’re already seeing the dumbing down of players who abuse DLRICM, literally all you see is helis on hover mode spamming up missiles with their brains turned off, it’s truly a measure of how absurdly stupid the whole situation is. I mean, my video above is proof of that. No thoughts, no fear of AAs, just spam spam spam space bar and win while not moving a finger.

And let’s face it, you are not guiding a missile for 10 to 15 km on Datalink alone, anyone who knows what they are doing will hit the deck and stay away from being painted by the radar as soon as they spawn, so this IR nerf made it so that only people who are in range to kill you can be engaged effectively. So what was the whole point of adding long range SAMs when you have effectively neutered SLM to a maximum engagement range of 4 to 6 kilometers?

And I forgot to mention that IRIS-T is the slowest of all the SAMs added, it can barely top Mach 3, so there is that issue as well, you are not going to be able to hit anyone at distance with Datalink guidance, it’s borderline impossible to die to IRIS-T now as a pilot.

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@Smin1080p_WT
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hey so quick question, are we going to see any response from the developers at all this time, or will it turn into basically the same hushed and smothered type deal as with Kh38MTs? You are a CM and while you cant say it immediately i think pretty much every here would be pretty happy to hear literally any response from developers, to whom you have contact with, on this.
The reduction of the IR phase has just been a pure nerf and i couldnt for the love of me find any report or bit of information related to the IR seeker terminal phase being 4km.
Additionally because the SLMs SL seeker is literally the same seeker that is present on Eldenhet98 (SLS) one which is unchanged this makes even less sense.

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Haha, they’re pretending to be asleep again, just like before.

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Notice how Smin has not dared to answer any message asking about this “”““buff””“” lol

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Seeing the bottom mounted LDIRCM affect missiles in front and above of the heli is so blatantly stupid i cant even.

Probably. Questions are left unanswered and theres literally 0 sources for the change. Its just a blatant nerf with a terrible explanation attached.

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Smin won’t give any response, even Stona remove my post. Or did we need to to complain here? >> IRIS-T SLM and Multi-Vehicle SAM Systems! - Official News, Development Blogs and Updates - War Thunder — official forum?

@Smin1080p_WT can the iris-t SLM get some recognition for its broken state please.

I’m starting to think it wasn’t a buff chief.

If only they were honest with us, instead of blatantly lying all the time.

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It never was. Just stupid nerf called buff — they think we are so stupid

You know that rafaello and EFT are in their current state due to identical issue? EFT thread has been up for 20k+ posts with a huge uproar after it’s flight model nerf, brimstones and etc. They just kept bullshiting people there and everything stayed the same.

Well at least they’re still exist.
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They’re just ashamed. And that’s all xD

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@Smin1080p_WT Why does the Swedish SLS version have a 10km IIR lock range and the SLM doesn’t, since the SLM is simply the same missile, just improved, and in the game it’s worse?

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Their justification for it is it’s not a seeker range, but a cone jettison range, which IMO makes it even more of a bullshit

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I love it. Now IRIS-T SLM isn’t just useless against Mi28NM and similar helicopters. Now it’s also useless against planes. Because a nation currently approaching a sub 40% win rate totally needed another nerf. And one that’s entirely made up by GJN.

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Like it could ever do something to the Mi-28NM, every single game was struggle going though the crazy IRCM and doing any damage hitting it.
There’s like a 20 % chance of going through the IRCM and 50% of doing any significat damage to it

How their “Listen carefully and take it into account” really works:

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Thing is, prior it was at least dangerous to planes. While the magic “doesn’t work like that IRL” missile shield protected DIRCM helicopters. With this “buff”, they’re now also useless against any pilot who isn’t stupid, and just as bad against helicopters.

That they try and sell this as a buff is beyond any reason. If it was “IR” takes over as soon as it loses radar lock, sure thing. But then they should model that properly and not just “until 4 km away”.

Right now IRIS-T SLM has the WORST of both worlds. And neither works the way it does IRL. They literally decided to screw it both ways and pretend they’re buffing it.

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Is there a bug report to contest the 4km seeker?