These are all short range systems
Indonesia doesn’t really use long range AA, at least land based ones which makes a lot of sense since Indonesia is a Island/Archipelago nation. It makes more sense to put most of it on their ships than on ground vehicles
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my mistake, i meant longer range*
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ahh i see, well i guess those are the options
+1 Add as Japanese subtree
I think there are many people who think that it is enough because it can be added to Japan with the Thailand subtree. However, in the future, many 4.5th generation or later fighters and 3.5th or later generation tanks will be added, but Thailand lacks the power to fill the gap, and the Indonesia tree that has them is necessary for the Japan tree.
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thoughts on the KNIL ( The Royal Netherlands East Indies Army ) to be combined with Indonesia to bolster the lower tier vehicles? I might be wrong but I believe they are not the same as the Royal Netherlands Army
might as well make it a dutch subtree))
well I’m just throwing ideas out there, and to be fair some of their vehicles was operated by Indonesians as they ended up being captured by the Japanese which helped oversee the independence movement
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Captured vehicles and tank used by the Japanese in patrolling the city of during the early stages of the declaration of an Indonesian Republic under the Soekarno (Sukarno) Government. From left to right are a Vickers Light Tank MK VI B (previously of B Squadron of the 3rd King’s Own Hussars and left in Tandjong Priok 20.02.42), 2 x Marmon Herrington MK III armoured cars, ex-KNIL White M3A1 Scout car and a Japanese Type 97 Te-ke Tankette.
maybe the Marmon Herrington MK III ? but it would perform really bad, like worse than the Csaba.
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Captured Japanese Mk. III (formerly operated by the KNIL, 1st Independent recon squadron) manned by Indonesian nationalist POWs in 1942.
Dimensions (L-W-H) = 5.18 x 2 x 2.67 m (17 x 6.56 x 8.76 ft)
Weight empty/loaded = 5.3/5.6 tons (11,760/12,500 lbs)
Armament = 1 x .55 cal (14 mm) Boys AT rifle, 1 x.303 Vickers/Bren
Armor = Sides 0.24 in, front 0.47 in (6/12 mm)
Crew = 3 (driver, gunner, radio/gunner)
Propulsion = Ford V8 liquid-cooled gasoline 95 bhp
Transmission = Manual 4/1 w/2 spd-tmsf
Suspension = 4x4 independent leaf springs, Ft axle steering
Max speed = 88.5 km/h (55 mph)
Range = 322 km (200 mi)
source: Marmon-Herrington Mk. III (1941)
Dont know whether they are captured, but these Chevy trucks mounted with water-cooled 50cals could be a tier 1 SPAA too
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Koninklijk Nederlands Indisch Leger (Royal Netherlands East Indies Army) #KNIL mobile AA gun units in Java Island, 1940s
source: Dutch Institute for Military History (NIMH)
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oh but i meant indonesia as a dutch subtree lmao, who doesn’t love some drama
that would be funny but I dont think Netherlands’ vehicles suffice for a full nation unfortunately
With the Thailand sub-tree being passed to the devs I dont think Indonesia will become a sub-tree for Japan, unless they decided to make it a combination of two nations like @Mahiwew said here
But i can see it working by implementing only some, not all of Indonesian vehicles are implemented, as i mentioned before
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no but a benelux tree (belgium + netherlands) does
well, add that to the list of nations that can possibly get the sub-tree, albeit quite a controversial one
that’s the fun part
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I’m not entirely sure yet. I’m not the best at air assets but if anyone else wants it by all means.
+1 in an ASEAN tree
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yeah why not? then again the dutch are the weaker one in terms of actual military power, their power came from the deeply entrenched colonialism in the system.
ahh okay
well if someone wants to do that, feel free to do so. I already put the basic list of planes possible, but ill put it here again just in case:
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the BR and some of the image is not accurate to the actual vehicles, they’re just placeholders
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You forgot the Ki-51 “Guntei”, the only surviving example of which is on display in the Indonesian Airforce Museum
Also the A-4E’s should actually be A-4H’s since Indonesian Skyhawks are actually Israeli Skyhawks that they acquire via the United States
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