In fairness, Indonesia does have some unique options, it is just not to the same scale as some other nations that would be viable as sub-trees for Japan.
you are just putting stuff into my mouth there. i want ASIAN nation that can help the empty hole in other nation, in this case Japan. i’m here to play game not ego stoke.
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Fine, then those vehicles should be the one proposed instead.
I am not going to repeat my self anymore…
then please don’t
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to be honest i would love to have korean in japan tech tree, but hey he said she said stuff there, most people screeching that SK is hostile to Japan. so that’s not happening unless Gaijin confirm that on QnA
that SK going to Japan we could rule that out. i actually saw few the vehicle and you guess it, some of them copy paste. i hate them too but looking at Japan tech tree currently they lack SPAA and IFV, which unless they officially announce the new light tank/IFV program that currently in testing/secret i don’t think we getting them soon. not to mention how Japan take their military secrecy to the max, i’ll take what available right now
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Nothing much is off limits until Gaijin announces formal plans for a nation.
Let us not forget that the ROC is integrated into the Chinese tree.
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well for the SPAA I don’t think it will add much, as the 4x4 cars such as the MML, Sherpa MPCV, and Komodo Mistral are similar to the type 93. And for the QW-3 missile carrier it cannot operate by itself so realistically it can’t be implemented, but maybe there are other alternatives that I don’t know about
to be fair Korea has also collaborated with Indonesia, in the case of the Tarantula 8x8 and the KF-21. But the chance of them being grouped together is slim.
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Personally I think it would be better to group them with Turkey
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this is just recently being tested and shown to to public(i think?)
it’s a saclos SPAA/TD which if added, will give Japan a way to kill low flying/hovering target.
because even the recently added optical lock, they still having problem locking low flying aircraft. because they added interference for optical lock against the ground. simply if it near/infront of the ground, it cannot get a lock
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That is actually quite interesting and I didn’t know about that.
It is too difficult to say if a “combi-sub-tree” or two sub-trees at different dates for Japan would happen though and it is especially the question of what the future of South Korea will be in the game, as neither the option of sub- nor independent tree are unlikely.
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I agree. When I made this, many of the vehicles line up to fit in a Turkish Tree and would compliment each other (not to mention, some have been built in collaboration with one another). Not all of these have to be added, but it was to show that Indonesia does have unique developments that would have a home in the game, likely supporting a main tech tree.
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How about a dedicated long range AA vehicles for top tier rather than a SHORAD on a car-based platform? Is there one like the FlaRakRad or the Pantsir?
These are all short range systems
Indonesia doesn’t really use long range AA, at least land based ones which makes a lot of sense since Indonesia is a Island/Archipelago nation. It makes more sense to put most of it on their ships than on ground vehicles
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my mistake, i meant longer range*
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ahh i see, well i guess those are the options
+1 Add as Japanese subtree
I think there are many people who think that it is enough because it can be added to Japan with the Thailand subtree. However, in the future, many 4.5th generation or later fighters and 3.5th or later generation tanks will be added, but Thailand lacks the power to fill the gap, and the Indonesia tree that has them is necessary for the Japan tree.
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thoughts on the KNIL ( The Royal Netherlands East Indies Army ) to be combined with Indonesia to bolster the lower tier vehicles? I might be wrong but I believe they are not the same as the Royal Netherlands Army
might as well make it a dutch subtree))