China is in a pretty similar situation too. I’m not expecting them all to be added but just to see some added would be nice and an actual reason to grind the british TT
India is already a british subtree…
The reasons are the Tornado, the Harrier, the Jaguar, the Typhoon, the Hawk, the Vulcan.
Why? not a single indian aircraft outside of the tejas would even be worth playing.
A worse Mig-29SMT whats the point nobody would willingly want to play that
Already in 2 techtrees soon to be 3 we dont need another
again no the rafale should stay in the french tree as their 4th gen + fighter otherwise it would invalidate playing france at all for toptier air until gaijin adds FCAS
Same as the Mig-29K why would anyone willingly play a slightly better Su-27SM the only difference between it and the SM is the TVC gimmick and a PESA even if added right now itd still be far worse than the F-15E and any of the other toptiers except for the current russian toptier at least until the Su-35S which russia needs
At the moment britain only has a JAS39C (The worst variant as it uses the Derby) for a top tier fighter. The Eurofighter sure, but then again it would be nice for a more diverse top tier and a reason for people to actually play the UK tree
Please keep it on topic guys
It’s not about need…
Then what is it about?
“I dont like the top tier aircraft of Britain and cant be bothered to grind another tree, so instead can you add top tier aircraft from the Soviet and French Trees instead so I dont have to grind those trees”
Is just a stupid argument.
If you want the Mig-29 or Su-30, Grind the soviet tree
If you want the Rafale or Mirage 2K, grind the french tree
If you want the Tornado, Harrier or Typhoon, grind the British tree.
Simple.
Britain has no voids or holes that would be filled by anything OP is asking for. Most would be inferior to British aircraft like the Typhoon.
It’s about adding cool vehicles to the game, and in places where it makes some sense.
Soviets don’t have an Su-30MKI cause that project was Indian. They have a down-tuned MKI they call the SM.
And no one’s asking for Rafale or 2K to be added to Britain, just the unique stuff like Mig-21 Bison, Su-30MKI, Bishma, etc.
It really depends on how unique they are compared to the vehicles they are based on. Something like the Mig-21 Bison is a fine addition due to its armament and physical changes. Something like the Bishma is debatable due to it not being very different from its Soviet version.
I’d say the line between copy+paste and unique is drawn when it offers something different gameplay wise.
To me, A mig-21 is a mig-21, an Su-30 is an su-30 and a t-90 is a t-90.
If you want those, then you should play the soviet TT.
If you want to Grind Britain then you should be after the things unique to the British TT. Things like the Sea Harrier, Javelin, Scimitar, Lightning, etc.
and OP IS asking for the Rafale and M2K
Just give me Arjun with cum blast and su30 with litening and I can die in peace.
There are nuances in changes from airframe to airframe, to tank to tank.
A Griffon Spitfire is entirely different in playstyle to a Spitfire Mk3.
With the Mig-21 Bison, there isn’t anything in the Soviet tree that comes close to what it is. However, whether or not it should’ve gone to the Soviet tree is up for debate.
I agree that the T-90 wasn’t needed, and that it offers nothing new.
What I’m trying to say is there is no real motive to grind the UK tree. US harriers are superior in most ways. If you really love the tornado then sure, but germany is still an option. I would like to see more diversity in top tier UK air. And if you really want the typhoon, the german and italian tech trees are better options.
Except Britain has superior harriers (and not even the best one has been added yet) and tornados. We may even eventually have the superior typhoon.
ehhhhh, you guys arent even purchasing /building new typhoons.
Then their is the amk thing, the fact that germany does have Pirate.
UK wont have the superior typhoon just preference dedicated.
Only unique thing of the uk typhoons is the LWS
Depending on what lines gaijin wants to draw. things like Spear-3 could be unique to the British TT and very good. Also I can see ASRAAM being perticularly potent within WT given their range and speed.
We are upgrading older Typhoons though, so should have msot if not all the kit like AMK I think.
eh arguable, has been displayed with germany already as well.
besides that we both know how gajin already gimped the brimstone 3
i am not so sure about that personaly. In SIM ? i can see it. in ARB? nup. ARB is either bvr slugging with amraams or goes straight into dogfighting then where IRIS_T would shine more.
If you wanna stay back with typhoons and snipe stragglers with asraam i can see asraam being good.
hard to say, at the essence still gonna be upgrades. Gotta wait and see how will it translates, but tranche 5 already being ordered by italy and germany does show a lot of future safety.
That being said phase 4 standards still need top be decided if i remember right
2028 iirc
Brimstone 1s and yes they are, but by the time we are talking about Spear-3 I hope they still arent SAL only. We’ll have to wait and see what they add where.
I still reckon that in ARB, 6x ASRAAM that give you no signfiicant warning until the MAWS starts shouting at you (if you have MAWS) is still pretty potent. In theory, a Typhoon with IRIS-T wouldnt be able to get into range to use an IRIS-T vs a Typhoon just running away and firing ASRAAM at it. Given that the RAF ones will be the only ones with the ASRAAM as well. It gives a unique reason to grind the British tree over the Italian or German trees (not really much point in grinding both of those trees if you just want a Typhoon with IRIS-T)
But in either case, not saying Britains will be the best, but could be the best. Especially if a more defensive playstyle happened to fit your playstyle.