I’m not sure what Gaijin sees in vt4 that we don’t. It’s does everything worse than any other 12.3 vehicle; mobility, armor and firepower (which is mediocre). Literally 11.7 material, even after decompression.
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Ah yes, having to waste all your missiles against a spamming heli so you cannot do anything against incoming planes. Very cool.
FnF heli missiles shouldn’t have been a thing in the first place, as it creates this exact issue where pure SACLOS/IR SAMs cannot deal with said helis, while those helis are outmatched by the SAMs that actually can deal with said helis.
Edit: btw the FlaRakRad only has two missiles ready to fire, the OTOMATIC probably cannot even target the FnF missiles, Type 81 has four missiles ready to fire and probably cannot target the FnF missiles and I imagine the Tor has a lot of trouble hitting the FnF missiles, if it can target them.
The ADATS and ItO would have to spend ALL of their missiles on a single helis payload.
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Germany lost their top tier lineup as Leo2PL is 12.3 now. Can’t we have it at 12.0 because otherwise at 12.0 in german TT there are only 2 vehicles and both are premium
All Japanese Type 90’s need to be moved on 12.0 BR like M1A1HC or T-80U-E1, we dont need a tank with 4 seconds reload on 11.7.
Also, why Pantsir S1 still on 12.0? S1 is literally better than BUK or other top tier anti air vehicles, its the thirst thing what should get the 12.7.
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no i think the Type 90s can stay seeing as the M1A1 their “closest” competitor is still chilling in 11.3
AGS - 12.0 to 11.7
The AGS was moved up in BR during the summer BR changes. AGS was not impactful at its previous BR of 11.7, and there doesn’t appear to be any reliable data indicating it performs uniquely better than comparable vehicles at 11.7.
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Namer Tsrikhon - 11.3 to 11.0
Armor is worse than the normal Namer, along with gun depression. Currently, Trophy does not work and has not worked since its introduction, meaning it has no advantage over the previous IFV. Furthermore, Namer has not performed adequately at 11.3 since its rise.
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M1A1 is not their “closest competitor”, M1A1HC is. Not long ago Type 90 was moved on 11.7 to match them and it was the best decision, now they are just forgot about this decision. 4 seconds reload is not for 11.7 BR.
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Probably because the USSR tree (currently) doesn’t have anything else to fill the gap between the Tunguska and the BUK. Also, the BUK is better than the Pantsir as a SAM.
Why the f T80UM2 on 11.7 br same br as T80U
BUK can not shoot new helis which is meta rigth now and BUK missiles are very easy to notch, you literally need just 1 chaff to dodge it. On the other side S1 can shoot anything you want, have guns for closer distances and have very fast missiles with multipath.
The new Merkava BRs are a sick joke.
They are so broken. Fix them.
I want to spend money on this game again but I won’t spend a cent until bug fixes are taken more seriously.
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Most, if not all SAMs struggle against the JAGM/LMUR slingers.
The BUKs missiles are faster and they can continue to track planes/helis after they disappeared from view, their additional range also allows them to actually pose somewhat of a threat against targets beyond a distance of 15km.
The Pantsir is only better in close range and JAGM spammers getting killed by Pantsirs is a skill issue on their end, not a benefit of the Pantsir.
This is really funny to read.
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“It can shoot down sitting ducks, so it’s better”
And now comes the joke of the day: the better French Tiger HAC is rated at 12.3 with PARS 3 (named Trigat), while the German Tiger UHT is set at 13.0.
The snail hates Germany :-)
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It truely shows Germany hate when multiple nations have been fucked over as hard or even harder than Germany lmao.
Where did you see distances like this? Main enemy of the soviets is USA and they doesnt have munition what can effectivly travel 15km right now, they always playing on closer distances.
UPD. We also have EF2K and JAS39 which also stay close always. The only thing what can kill you from long distances is Rafale but its really not the main problem.
If they dissapear from the view its mean what they are using antipod and your missile cant do anything to them.
And at the end, yes, its easy to dodge S1 on AH-64E, all you need to do its descend and chaff but its still harder than dodge BUK cause all you need to do to dodge it is just stay low or again descend and chaff
BR decompression → BR depression
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I can make it easier, it can shoot at least something, so it’s better.