Lol, it’s a GROUND BATTLE go play ARB or something if you want planes
It’s combined arms, go play world of tanks if you want TO.
How is ARB a “combined arms”?
No shit, you always have dead weight in your teams, be it wallet warriors, one death leavers, trolls that bring a bunch of low BR vehicles into high BR games, etc.
The difference is that helicopters and ground vehicles are completely worthless in air battles. The planes can just fight somewhere else and the helis and ground vehicles cannot follow. Or the planes just fight at high altitude.
It’s almost like that’s the point.
Ground battles are designed in a way that allows planes and helis to support tanks, but the objectives are in a small area with objectives that (most of the time) planes and helis cannot properly capture. The only way to win without using tanks is to drain the enemy team of tickets by killing them and that is highly unlikely to happen.
Air battles are designed in a way that makes playable ground vehicles and helis entirely useless, even on the maps with actual objectives. What do you think is a heli or a tank supposed to do in an air battle? The planes don’t have to engage with you in a way that gives you an opportunity to attack the plane.
By featuring AI controlled planes, ground units and ships
Great.
So lets make the same for GRB - playable tranks, AI planes, ships and other ground trucks etc
yes. just like people going into a game mode that has one of its main selling points being combined arms then demanding to play non-combined arms.
They could have a sizable area in the map where ground stuff can take place. add objectives for cas in the area to drawn planes there. would be much better for cas due to better rewards and better gameplay.
Yeah, i dont see helis or tanks being possible. spaa could if they did it right. it would certainly make cas not as boring.
It was never a “main selling point”
Ok - remove ARB then.
It was literally part of trailers.
I have already stated what i want done to arb a few times.
It was never a MAIN selling point, as you claim
It was certainly one of the main selling points.
If you add AI controlled ships you need to keep playable aircraft. Tanks cannot engage with ships, maybe with landing craft, but not with ships.
If you add AI controlled aircraft you might as well keep playable aircraft.
It was. WT always was meant to feature aircraft, tanks and ships with a focus on aircraft interacting with tanks and/or ships.
What?
So “main selling point” became now “one of the selling points”.
Anyway, i got bored of this topic, as nobody have any sensible argument to make.
I bid you farewell
Sorry you cant read because you are too busy trying to build that strawman
not if they added worthy SAM, which is the direction theyre going
is isnt a matter of gameplay design. a tank simply cannot play against aircraft, and SPAAs are required for the gamemode to make sense
and having to rely on SPAA to not die is just stupid and shit gameplay. relying on your team to begin with is unreliable
combined arms definitely is not a selling point and never was.
they dont advertise “come play WT if you like an authentic experience of instant death by bombing”
arent you against a tank-only gamemode?

Sorry you cant read because you are too busy trying to build that strawman
talking about strawman while defending CAS is comical

combined arms definitely is not a selling point and never was.
Clearly you have never seen any trailers or stuff related to this game.
One of the main selling points to set it a part from the others is the fact you can have different classes of vehicles together. Most other games are only tanks or only planes.

talking about strawman while defending CAS is comical
Those two things are not related. Unless you are suggesting i have been strawmaning?
The irony of this all. The extreme anti-cas people call me a cas defender while the extreme pro-cas people call me a cas hater.

Clearly you have never seen any trailers or stuff related to this game.
ive seen the trailers with arcade physics and goofy stories that surely represent what actual gameplay is like

One of the main selling points to set it a part from the others is the fact you can have different classes of vehicles together. Most other games are only tanks or only planes.
and yet air RB exists, and people dont seem to complain about that. which is probably because its stupid to force a different vehicle type into standard pvp when it doesnt need to be there.
there should be a choice to play either everything (normal mode) or just tanks

Those two things are not related. Unless you are suggesting i have been strawmaning?
youre saying someone is busy building a strawman, while ignoring what all “anti CAS” people are saying.
or maybe youre not ignoring it, but youre not refuting what we are saying, and instead countering with something that makes no sense

The irony of this all. The extreme anti-cas people call me a cas defender while the extreme pro-cas people call me a cas hater.
doesnt sound like youre a CAS hater.
being called anything by a pro-CAS player doesnt mean much because theyre delusional and only want their own gameplay to be good, ignoring that other players exist

and yet air RB exists, and people dont seem to complain about that
I have given my thoughts on that gamemode.

youre saying someone is busy building a strawman, while ignoring what all “anti CAS” people are saying.
I ignore the pro-cas because i assume most people know to not take them seriously. I could be wrong but i hope not. I sort of gave up on trying to provide regular comments with all of the childish extremes

but youre not refuting what we are saying, and instead countering with something that makes no sense
I was providing regular stuff earlier but got tired of the dumb childish arguments and decided to just speak their language.
If you would like my thoughts on air rb, cas, spaa, ect you can ask. Im happy to switch to a more civil convo.

theyre delusional and only want their own gameplay to be good, ignoring that other players exist
Yeah. Like i said earlier, that one dude made a huge fuse that stingers are op all because he uptiers a cas plane into stinger br due to him needing ccrp to bomb.
Spent too much time in that thread…

arent you against a tank-only gamemode?
I’m not. I was just stating earlier in this thread that such a mode likely wouldn’t happen because of how Gaijin might view this in terms of profitability.
For a company trying to sell you vehicles in a game to make grinding easier it definitely is a big objective to incentivize people to buy vehicles of as many kinds as possible. Ground battles without CAS might end up causing less sales of premium helis and planes.
What I am against is this non-sensical argument of ARB not being combined arms just because it doesn’t include playable ground vehicles or ships and that ARB should feature those if GRB has to feature playable aircraft.

and having to rely on SPAA to not die is just stupid and shit gameplay. relying on your team to begin with is unreliable
That’s why I was arguing against raising the spawn cost of SPAAs/SAMs earlier.

its great that you have 4 different accounts, hope you enjoy them.
but it doesnt change the fact that this account of yours has literally only SPAA
lol, as factually inaccurate as the rest of your complaints 🤣
Sounds like you’re gonna be playing a lot of custom matches with Hudler while you wait for a game mode you’re never gonna see.