Great.
So lets make the same for GRB - playable tranks, AI planes, ships and other ground trucks etc
Great.
So lets make the same for GRB - playable tranks, AI planes, ships and other ground trucks etc
yes. just like people going into a game mode that has one of its main selling points being combined arms then demanding to play non-combined arms.
They could have a sizable area in the map where ground stuff can take place. add objectives for cas in the area to drawn planes there. would be much better for cas due to better rewards and better gameplay.
Yeah, i dont see helis or tanks being possible. spaa could if they did it right. it would certainly make cas not as boring.
It was never a “main selling point”
Ok - remove ARB then.
It was literally part of trailers.
I have already stated what i want done to arb a few times.
It was never a MAIN selling point, as you claim
It was certainly one of the main selling points.
If you add AI controlled ships you need to keep playable aircraft. Tanks cannot engage with ships, maybe with landing craft, but not with ships.
If you add AI controlled aircraft you might as well keep playable aircraft.
It was. WT always was meant to feature aircraft, tanks and ships with a focus on aircraft interacting with tanks and/or ships.
What?
So “main selling point” became now “one of the selling points”.
Anyway, i got bored of this topic, as nobody have any sensible argument to make.
I bid you farewell
Sorry you cant read because you are too busy trying to build that strawman
not if they added worthy SAM, which is the direction theyre going
is isnt a matter of gameplay design. a tank simply cannot play against aircraft, and SPAAs are required for the gamemode to make sense
and having to rely on SPAA to not die is just stupid and shit gameplay. relying on your team to begin with is unreliable
combined arms definitely is not a selling point and never was.
they dont advertise “come play WT if you like an authentic experience of instant death by bombing”
arent you against a tank-only gamemode?
Sorry you cant read because you are too busy trying to build that strawman
talking about strawman while defending CAS is comical
combined arms definitely is not a selling point and never was.
Clearly you have never seen any trailers or stuff related to this game.
One of the main selling points to set it a part from the others is the fact you can have different classes of vehicles together. Most other games are only tanks or only planes.
talking about strawman while defending CAS is comical
Those two things are not related. Unless you are suggesting i have been strawmaning?
The irony of this all. The extreme anti-cas people call me a cas defender while the extreme pro-cas people call me a cas hater.
Clearly you have never seen any trailers or stuff related to this game.
ive seen the trailers with arcade physics and goofy stories that surely represent what actual gameplay is like
One of the main selling points to set it a part from the others is the fact you can have different classes of vehicles together. Most other games are only tanks or only planes.
and yet air RB exists, and people dont seem to complain about that. which is probably because its stupid to force a different vehicle type into standard pvp when it doesnt need to be there.
there should be a choice to play either everything (normal mode) or just tanks
Those two things are not related. Unless you are suggesting i have been strawmaning?
youre saying someone is busy building a strawman, while ignoring what all “anti CAS” people are saying.
or maybe youre not ignoring it, but youre not refuting what we are saying, and instead countering with something that makes no sense
The irony of this all. The extreme anti-cas people call me a cas defender while the extreme pro-cas people call me a cas hater.
doesnt sound like youre a CAS hater.
being called anything by a pro-CAS player doesnt mean much because theyre delusional and only want their own gameplay to be good, ignoring that other players exist
and yet air RB exists, and people dont seem to complain about that
I have given my thoughts on that gamemode.
youre saying someone is busy building a strawman, while ignoring what all “anti CAS” people are saying.
I ignore the pro-cas because i assume most people know to not take them seriously. I could be wrong but i hope not. I sort of gave up on trying to provide regular comments with all of the childish extremes
but youre not refuting what we are saying, and instead countering with something that makes no sense
I was providing regular stuff earlier but got tired of the dumb childish arguments and decided to just speak their language.
If you would like my thoughts on air rb, cas, spaa, ect you can ask. Im happy to switch to a more civil convo.
theyre delusional and only want their own gameplay to be good, ignoring that other players exist
Yeah. Like i said earlier, that one dude made a huge fuse that stingers are op all because he uptiers a cas plane into stinger br due to him needing ccrp to bomb.
Spent too much time in that thread…
arent you against a tank-only gamemode?
I’m not. I was just stating earlier in this thread that such a mode likely wouldn’t happen because of how Gaijin might view this in terms of profitability.
For a company trying to sell you vehicles in a game to make grinding easier it definitely is a big objective to incentivize people to buy vehicles of as many kinds as possible. Ground battles without CAS might end up causing less sales of premium helis and planes.
What I am against is this non-sensical argument of ARB not being combined arms just because it doesn’t include playable ground vehicles or ships and that ARB should feature those if GRB has to feature playable aircraft.
and having to rely on SPAA to not die is just stupid and shit gameplay. relying on your team to begin with is unreliable
That’s why I was arguing against raising the spawn cost of SPAAs/SAMs earlier.
its great that you have 4 different accounts, hope you enjoy them.
but it doesnt change the fact that this account of yours has literally only SPAA
lol, as factually inaccurate as the rest of your complaints 🤣
Sounds like you’re gonna be playing a lot of custom matches with Hudler while you wait for a game mode you’re never gonna see.
Where is the option to spawn helicopter in ARB?
Do you want to spawn helis in ARB?
Where is the option to spawn SPAA in ARB?
Do you want to spawn SPAA in ARB?
Do you realise that GRB at the start was tank only in 2014?
It was intended for combined arms from the start.
So “main selling point” became now “one of the selling points”.
Literally every single add and YouTube sponsor advertises the combined arms aspect alongside the highly detailed damage models and customization.
If one of three major advertising points isn’t a “main selling point” then, according to you, nothing is a “main selling point”.
For a company trying to sell you vehicles in a game to make grinding easier it definitely is a big objective to incentivize people to buy vehicles of as many kinds as possible. Ground battles without CAS might end up causing less sales of premium helis and planes.
well, air RB exists. nobody has to grind MBTs or SPAAs, and they still havent deleted that gamemode.
What I am against is this non-sensical argument of ARB not being combined arms just because it doesn’t include playable ground vehicles or ships and that ARB should feature those if GRB has to feature playable aircraft.
nobody said ARB should have SPAAs or ships, it is just an example that non-mixed pvp exists, and contrary to CAS players beliefs, is actually physically possible.
so i dont see a reason why tank-only shouldnt exist.
lol, as factually inaccurate as the rest of your complaints 🤣
gonna continue waiting for you to write something comprehensible.
yet youre one of the most sensible CAS lovers
Do you want to spawn SPAA in ARB?
nobody does. and yet, you can spawn aircrafts in GRB.
its whacky how that works
there have been like 4,000 posts on CAS threads over a few months, and i have not read a single valid reason why tank-only shouldnt exist. nobody ever said anything. just continuous cope from CAS players, and pointless arguments between children, and never anything that makes sense
well, air RB exists. nobody has to grind MBTs or SPAAs, and they still havent deleted that gamemode.
I am not arguing that Air RB would cease to exist for the people that are interested in planes. I am arguing that there is incentive for players to buy helis and planes when they are in their prefered mode and that is a factor for a company like Gaijin.
I don’t know how this is so hard to understand, a player that is interested in playing ground vehicles is more likely to get into helis and planes if these vehicles are featured in ground battles, same goes for naval battles.
A ground-only mode could hurt the sales of premium planes and definitely would hurt the sales of premium helis. That’s how a company like Gaijin would see it.
nobody said ARB should have SPAAs or ships
ehhh
nobody does.
Then stop talking about spawning SPAA and helis in ARB.
well, air RB exists. nobody has to grind MBTs or SPAAs, and they still havent deleted that gamemode.
You’re arguing this from a standpoint of
“I don’t want planes in GRB cause bad gameplay”
We’re arguing from a standpoint of
“TO isn’t profitable for Gajin”
We’re telling you why TO is a bad idea from Gajin’s perspective, and hence hasn’t been added, but you’re trying to say we’re wrong, as if you can change Gajin’s mind by arguing on the forum.
“TO isn’t profitable for Gajin”
Depends how they go with it, it could be a huge selling point if done right.
But WWM mode showed that they can’t do anything new.