Incerase BR of new SPAA's from the Leviathan update

mmmmmmmm…CAS at Top Tier, meaning ranks 7 and 8, had way more dominance than SAMs did. Type 81 C, ADATS, FlakRakRad, Rolands, OTOMATIC, is unable to counter long range CAS. These are what many players used for the neglected nations, however its become so outdated that it no longer handle CAS weapons with GPS guided bombs and missiles with 20+ km launch ranges. These new SAMs, hopefully the bugs get fixed asap, is what was needed to keep up with long range attacks from CAS.

There is now somewhat balance at top tier, CAS mains will have to use their brains and skills rather than just flying off 20km, launch, RTB, redo without any resistance. We can now more effectively Iron Dome the missiles as well.

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Absolutely! I mean some aircrafts will be useless for CAS and thats just how it is, not all of them are good for it, no matter how much change you bring into it because the nature of the game itself doesnt allow them to be used for what they were originally meant. But changing some aspects of the game could bring a bunch of aircrafts into a useful categoory unlike now where its either top tier CAS or dont bother

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Based

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Fun fact: 11.3 aircraft lets say F4E or in your case MiG27K have more weapons other than just the AGMs FnF stuff…Ever heard of interdicting enemy airspace? Snake Eye or chute bombs? Loft Bombing run, Toss also called in the early days, Pop up… no? I can tell. New AA is more vulnerable to skillful flying than to just being a noob flying in a straight line at 4km alt and spamming FnF and it shows SO MUCH that CAS players required absolutely NO skill whatsoever to molest EVERYONE they wanted on the ground.

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And at the same time useless for CAP, aka useless for everything.

Meanwhile the Chinese one is… Almost completely useless

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Pretty much yeah! I mean in TT Russia I rather use Su25K than 23ML…yeah BR wise ML better bla bla but if both aircrafts come down to be used as lawnmowers and dropping bombs or rockets on tanks the 25K is MUCH better at that.Thats also nowhere near stating that 25K belongs there or that its viable and most oof the time it isnt but since I dont have the fake missile spammers I use that and also most of the time I dont even bother spawning it and rather use a tank instead since its pretty much guaranteed to do better

Yes, absolutely, but the problem isn’t IRIS-T being able to counter Su-34, it’s problem when it absolutely dominates Su-25T which is relatively short range compared to top tier CAS such Su-34. Su-25T, even with the best missiles (2 TV missiles with effective range of 10km) Su-25T stands ZERO chance against IRIS-T.

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It isn’t, it’s cringe. Spawning a tank takes no effort, while spawning a CAS plane does (you have to collect SP for that)

Spawning a plane takes virtually no effort. Stop pretending like it is terribly hard.
Stop whining and spawn a tank and go kill the defenceless SAM on the ground.

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Maybe stop playing EVERY aircraft the same?

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I do this, I usually spawn in tank and deliberately rush for spawn to help my CAS teammates.

And well, it’s not hard, but it at least takes effort.

how you tried them when you only in reserve tier in every tech tree but russia?

At my friend’s house and also, dev servers exist.

It’s hard for him because his mbt has like 0.3-0.5 KD. Maybe he should’ve spawn a light tank to scout or a milktruck to rush cap since he like to cas so much

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I did see that but wasn’t going to comment on it. Nice to see I wasn’t the only one who noticed though.

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So you’re clearly lying just to protect your fragile cope because your Su-25T can’t rain down on tanks without facing counters, and you know it :)

According to you:
CAS outranges SPAA = OK
SPAA outranges CAS = Not ok

Would advice you trying to play other tech trees and see what it’s all about :)

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It’s not hard if I’m commited to playing ground, but when I rush for it so I can get in cas before the half of the enemy team is wiped out it is preety hard to collect 900SP that fast considering that rushing for it also puts me at high risk of death.

Again, neanderthal midset. Su-25T was already vounerable to old SPAA’s even before the update.

What old SPAA could engage beyond 12+km? (KH-29T range)

Let me help you, none besides Pantsir and HQ17 (both usaully on your team)