IFF problems provoke friendly fire with the Rafale

How can you avoid friendly fire with your IFF showing targets as ennemy and the suddenly, it appeared that was a friend ?!
It happens so many times, that I got banned for one day. And it happened again right now.

Some says to use my HMD for ID targets, but if I do that, my radar is off, and I don’t have the habit of it.
Seriously, is there a constructive advice about it ?
(If it is to say to use my brain, thank you, you can keep it for yourself)

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What aircraft? What situation?

I so far never had an issue with IFF “malfunctioning”…

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I’m props, only occasionally flying early vietnam era craft but does “Attention to gridsquare X”“”, “Follow me!” and “Cover me!” not help at BVR brackets?

You see a contact, you guesstimate distance in gridsquares and direction and ping the position on your map. You then do “Follow me!” to say “I’m here and I see someone there, are you friend or foe?”

Obviously it relies on teammates who reply with their own follow me, but it usually works until the F8U brackets?

It does, but admittedly people often are lazy with this, and thus just not getting a response when pinging a suspected enemy does NOT mean it’s really an enemy.

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With the Rafale. I found that I had to switch often to HMD to be sure I’m not engaging an ally in the previous game.

About “follow me” as Schindibee said, people are too lazy to use it, and people argue that you just need to watch your radar.
In TWS mode, it’s very useful, yes, but when someone suddenly pop on it, indicated as ennemy, it doesn’t update to friendly some times, even if I wait to the radar to scan multiple times.

The situation :

  • A target poped up on my radar as TWS mode, I can see it clearly, he’s alone. Okay, just to be sure I’m not locking a friendly, I’m waiting after multiple scans during maybe 10 seconds (knowing that sometimes the IFF needs to scan multiple times to ID targets properly), the target is still identified as ennemy.
  • Then Fox 3, and I break away to avoid threats.
  • Few seconds later, the game marked as “friendly fire”.
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by visually identifying it as friendly or if say its an f104 and there’s no f104 on your team its hostile

Very important aspect, often overlooked!

One of my favorite aircraft is the F-5E FCU, and I objectively can say that most of the deaths I suffered were because of friendly fire, not the enemies, and I strongly suspect that the Tiger is too often considered to be “Blue Force”.

I’ve made it a habit to regularly check the match’s roster to see what aircraft my team atm has flying, so for example if I have to expect Phantoms on the other side, I check if we have also Phantoms active, so I will pay extra attention when deciding friend or foe…

Not all radars have IFF, so EVERY contact shows ‘-’ which can lead you to believe its hostile. ie the F5s. I play the thai fighter a LOT and NEVER use the radar… the RWR tells me who to kill nearly every time. I nearly always fight Russia since the A-10s don’t reveal themselves since they dont have radar.

Second not every radar mode shows IFF or has a confusing display that is harder to interpret. SRC and TWS are best.

Third you can get a ping from a friendly that shows it as hostile but can later return a ‘friend’ identifier a few seconds later. You see this on early jets… if something is above you and there is clear sky behind it is much more reliable. If it has the ground behind or is further away, treat it with suspicion… and get more sweeps. It can ‘malfunction’.

I get about 1 TK a week and have only been kicked from a handful of games for getting 2.

If you fire on someone in the Rafale who is dogfighting and they get behind cover the missile will try to reaquire on someone else… your ally!

I think also some radars only have IFF in certain modes (Floggers?), so that can be a source for TK’s.

Also, same applies to often ACM mode having no IFF - especially dangerous in dogfights!

All thoses situations you have mentionned is what I am aware of with cold war fighter jets
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But here I’m mentionning the fact that with a top tier fighter jet supposed to have Link 16 and others technologies to know where your allies and ennemies are.

But I have more IFF issues with it instead of the Mirage F1 C-200 when the only friendly fires I made was because I shot Fox 2s to the wrong guy in the heat of the fight, but NEVER I shot a Fox 1 to an ally, because my IFF never failed.

However here, my technologically advanced fighter doesn’t always show the right ID on the radar.
Isn’t there a little paradox ?

And about that, the situation I mentioned earlier was on a single target flying straight and alone (on the radar perspective, of course). Waiting carefully after multiple scan if the ID switch or not.

Are you sure it was TWS?

Check the replay.

Reason why we need the IFF while STT wich is the most basic thing ever on radars and its not in game…feels like intentional to me…

I wouldn’t mention it otherwise.