Oh I fully believe it. A lot of the time it’s going to depend on what BR and nation you play.
A top tier Russian is probably safer from CAS under the envelope of 2S6’s and Pantsir’s than say a 9.ish BR UK guy as it’s late enough you’re facing guided weapons. But before you get anything more than the marksman/ZA.
Same with America between 4.0 and 7.0.
But a lot of it is self fulfilling. Guys hate planes, but also never spend any time countering them. Virtually none of the TO proponents ever seem to advocate for any counters. They just want to remove them so they can continue the same dumb playstyle that makes them vulnerable.
I want to make it clear I’m not advocating for CAS to be nerfed.
I love the combined arms aspect of the game. I simply want parity between the air and ground capabilities so that it doesn’t become the open slaughter than it often devolves into currently.
Yea, 9.7 SPAA vs a 10.7 Heli won’t stand a chance, proper vehicle to use is the Roland 2 with the exact same range as the G Lynx. And the 10.7 G Lynx will definitely get out ranged by the 11.7 ADATS, 10.3 ASRAD-R and so on. Though at that point, it all falls down to player’s knowledge. Helis with hellfires/SAM can take out each other depending what they do. The only helis Im still annoyed with are the ones with Spike missiles, just fire a barrage and flies away. Only way to counter those are with smoke/cover, they self destruct once they lose track. But one must know they are being fired at to avoid it.
Offering a 11.7 AD unit as the solution to a 10.7(as of days ago) helicopter kind of highlights the problem though.
Because of the way the match maker works as soon as you hit 9.3 you will be facing US helicopters with hellfires and A-10’s and grinding to unlock a 1A2 or Ozelot, that will still be unable to defend against any player who isn’t an idiot.
It’s easy to kill idiots. But it’s damn near impossible to defend against even decent players.
So you’re saying that the ai aaa has an unfair advantage vs planes that have a fair advantage against a ground vehicle? I guess a good suggestion to have them in ground would be to tune them a bit closer to the ai of a planes turret gunner, but a bit better and have them added to ground?
Did this statistic account for the above average player? Primary reason I stopped playing Japan top tier as often after grinding. Couldn’t go a game dying to CAS at least once if I wasn’t playing passively and the spaa option
Isn’t good enough against Helios
Yeah kind of annoying my gun can’t do much to tanks on a gun run, and my missiles are only for air targets, and the SP requirement is barely different to being an A2G load out with me.
I only use my planes for CAP. With my sorta crappy SPAA, jets is my really viable solution for CAS. So I think lowering it a bit would be nice.
I’m also gonna put fourth the idea that if there’s tons of jets. The LAV is the best SPAA for top tier U.S. it’s semi easy to flare missiles, but it’s hard to hold your energy and continue to do so. If you lob the stinger at different approach angles and intervals, you’ll run out of energy managing and I’ll still have more to fire.
I’m not expert at it, but it does work for me, in the rare chances I decide to spawn SPAA, which isn’t often.
Problem with the lav is it can’t do anything about Orbital bomber’s like the a6tram and it’s equivalents
Nor Long range Helis
And doesn’t have a search radar so you only have a mk1 eyeball to search for target’s or what I call the MK2 eyeball gunner Sight with Thermals but the angle is Very narrow
CAS should not be allowed to kill people as soon as they spawn, because it’s getting to a joke at this point. Even the strike drones are killing me bro, I’m a magnet for it lately
USSR: Not like they had strong ones already 🤣
Osa-AKM
Italy: Finally getting a workable SAM at 10.3
Osa-AKM
Hopefully the Osa-AKM can do some work. Does have a 10.3 km range and sitting at 10.3 Br lol Have a feeling it may end up at 11.0 or 11.3 after a few months into the game due to its range. Just like they did with the other SAMs. Never the less, looking pretty good. though the SPAA gaps are still there in the 5.7 to 8.0 range for other nations like Japan, US, UK…💀
Wishing for more effective SAMs and 6.0 to 8.0 effective SPAAs the next update.
So far as I know not everyone got high BR jets, so how about bringing us a research-free interceptor in high BR battle such as 9.0 above? Every player can use it by spending some SP points, just like Attack drones. I think that’s a good way to balance the overwhelming air attack in high BR battle, epically for the NATOs since they have not much ground countermeasures.
