Add SPAA Systems that u can spawn on airfield
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That’s the Lvrbv 701. The stormer isn’t even that bad, it’s just extremely dependant on your network performance as an unstable network can cause the darts to phase through targets due to the speed and lack of proximity fuze. When your internet isn’t working against you it’s quite good.
that would be neat especially with some very long range SPAA. The problem would be that we’d need some sort of ARM for planes to fight long range SAMs.
Or give SPAA fire and forget active radar missiles with comparable range. Suddenly aircraft can’t space climb or loiter outside of SPAA range while launching guided munitions.
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for the situation I satiated it was the worst, shooting down incoming AGMs Lvrbv at least has a proxy and can shoot down AGMs, now it only gets the one missile which sucks
I was also mainly talking about top tier since that is where I play and where the majority of guided weapons are, and believe it or not most SACLOS sams can shoot down AGMs it really isnt that hard to do, but I get the complain on only IR and gun spaa
This is a common issue. You’re only playing top tier and you’re not playing in the mid levels where decompression and power creep have pushed guided weapons down into lower tiers.
Guided F&F weapons start showing up in the 8.7’s now and immediately have a 20+ km range. Yes you can sometimes lock them up and engage them, if you can spot them optically, but that’s iffy for a weapon that’s already guiding.
At BR 10, every SPAA will encounter guided F&F weapons fired from ranges they can’t respond at.
well thats just wrong lmao, if its TV guided weapons then they have a max lock range of 7-8km anything past that and your locking in the ground, and if you die to that then well thats your own fault for staying still for so long
also can you please tell me what plane is at 8.7 with TV guided weapons?
This is why positioning is very important which is what players lack and don’t do. Common places vehicles with F&F look are spawn or the battlefield, hardly ever the ones in cover or edge of map. I only fire my missiles when they are tunnel visioning to 1 target. Guaranteed kill making them miss if its a Laser guided or TV guided.
Just depends how you play the SPAA. If ya just shooting at spawn, no positioning, firing early, firing at the incorrect time… expect to fail.
yeah a lot of spaa players are braindead and think that they should just get the kill because they pointed and clicked
A4 with walleyes (US and Israel) start at 8.7.
And I have seen them lobbed right to spawn from 10 KM out.
You can point the blame at them for “sitting still too long” but again all you’re doing is sidestepping the problem that we have significant capability mismatch.
no they dont lol they are at 9.3 and even then, they dont get pods so good luck spotting a target at 20km as you say
my guy if you sit still in spawn expect to die, that is just a rule of thumb, im not side stepping the issue and the more I talk with you the more I can tell you are either miss informed or just lying.
I don’t disagree. But the problem is, unless you’re fighting a stupid player, you are dramatically handicapped fighting against a smart player who will almost always have longer range weapons, speed, and countermeasures.
In my Bosvark, I havn’t sat in spawn.
I found a spot that covered my dead zone (parked front towards a tall rock so lack of depression wont cause issues). It was a spot that overlooked spawn and the A point on Karelia. I even got a kill or two.
However, 11 second reload and non-existent mobility (slow reverse for wheeled vehicle, sluggish acceleration, enormous turn radius) meant that jets could safely strafe me after I killed one or two of them without any way for me to dodge, relocate or return fire.
Plus there’s the fact that I’m still missing 14 degrees of turret rotation because of not aced crew. That’s pretty impactful trying to gun down a jet that just appeared over the horizon.
Bosvark has been my only SPAA for 5.3, 6.3, 7.7 and will be at 8.0.
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thats more an issue with gaijin leaving massive spaa gaps in trees, we did used to have the falcon at 7.3 but because people were good with it and killed tanks with it, it now sits at 8.3.
you also literally say you killed 2 jets with it like idk what you want me to say to that, it just proves you can do it and just got unlucky there was a 3rd
I’m saying it as a counter to the mobility thing you raised.
Maybe it’d be possible to do in the wiesel since it is small, seems quite mobile and its reload is ~2 seconds faster.
But some nations can try to position as well as they can think of and once they fire, they’ll be known and shot down without the ability to reposition or hide again (within reasonable time frames. Eventially I’ll parallel park my way somewhere else, but that’s gonna take a few minutes)
You’re correct I looked at the WT vehicle page and forgot they show Air RB
Still, doesn’t matter. They have a 20+km range and SPAA has no parity.
Even at 9.3 they out range any of the SPAAs that could possible face them and SPAAs are either gun (which can theoretically engage the walleye) or missile based except for the Machbet or ZSU-4M4. You’ve done nothing but side step the entire argument.
Well you have more missiles ignoring how fast a plane reloads and how painfully slow SPAA do (and that they have to go through the front line to a contested point to do so)
Well you can shoot down their weapons (if you’re in a gun system and if you can see them/lock them)
You’ve yet to actually counter either the original post that you quoted or anything I said. Its literally just sidestep and misdirection over and over.
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what do you want me to say? I havent had an issue with these planes and I have been playing 9.0 all day, wanna know something really funny? the walleye cant lock ground targets past 8km if you are dying from well past 8km that is a skill issue because you sat still for so long.
you can say I keep side stepping or whatever you want ill keep getting plane kills in my spaa and you can keep couping that its to hard
Very interesting that in just a couple responses you’ve gone from I play top tier, my suggestions were based on that, to playing 9.0 all day and haven’t encountered the biggest complaint that every just about every SPAA player espouses……
I mainly do 10.3 to 11.7 but ive been doing 9.0 because I need to grind the striker so ive been playing the shot kal delet I can send the list of games if you want