People asked for things to be implemented - Gaijin ignored it - Review bombing happened - It got implemented
Sorry, that is just logic.
Provide any evidence to the discussion, so it can progress and then get angry about it.
Evidence of what? People not spawning SPAA then getting upset about the planes ripping them to shreds?
That’s all over the forums at times and it gets cleaned up on the regular because of how adamant they are that the change that needs to happen is in the game, not them.
And your advice to spawn planes is hilariously encouraging people to fail because they use all their SP on spawning a plane, crash, then leave.
Oh, don’t remember the very ‘common’ situation that You were describing and then refused to give even a link to server replay when that happens?
If they die/crash without gaining any SP that is on them. With SPAA they would just give more free SP to the enemy and has less chance to really do something.
What situation are you inferring because it’s quite obvious when you suggest to spawn SPAA and people are all ‘I’M PLAYING TANKS!’ that they aren’t spawning SPAA, or even looking up…
They can make more SP with the SPAA than a lawndart risk of getting nothing from spawning a plane.
The difference in cost makes it clear they could spawn an SPAA AND a tank, without even gaining anything, but with a plane, using all thier SP, they won’t be able to respawn if they didn’t get anything back.
Talk about logical thinking… /s
To the one You were describing when talking about effectiveness of the SPAA.
And with TO You would have a place for such people, leaving GRB to the people who enjoy combined aspect of it.
If they die to the plane that they can’t do anything to, then no. Not to mention enemy tanks in most cases.
So die in a SPAA to the plane and later in a tank to the same plane? No, thank You.
They have much bigger chance against a plane in a plane.
I use one, that is how I understand how this game works and can have good results in it.
If I were lying about things in game, my own stats would show that.
That was months back. I didn’t even mention it in this thread, so maybe you want to think a bit more about what was said, rather than trying to provoke an issue as you commonly do.
I was actually saying about the AVOIDANCE that people DO about not spawning SPAA themselves…
Because that cost difference makes a very big difference to how long you can last in battle, without using all your SP.
If You can’t earn SP in a plane, then You would’t be able to do that in SPAA.
SPAA are not effective against planes in general (with some exceptions), thus there is no point in actually using them.
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Fact be known, if you can’t accept that capping, assists and actually supporting the team, are part of doing well in the match, then you ignoring that those stats aren’t tracked, and don’t show in your precious stats, makes it clear that you’re so hooked up on misrepresenting those stats that you’re genuinely disingenuious.
Your stats don’t mean squat.
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So are we talking about the way to deal with the plane? Because people talk about the situation when they die to the air, and they want the solution for that.
Air is more effective against the air than SPAA and that is a real fact.
Not to mention that again, if You can’t earn enough SP in a plane to spawn into anything else, then You wouldn’t be able to do that in SPAA too.
People want to play tanks, not SPAA, not AIR. You can’t understand it? Fine. Then let them play in a mode with just tanks.
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It’s a shame that it has to escalate like this again. I had written a lot, but deleted it again, because it doesn’t change the hardened fronts that exist here. A waste of time. I’d rather deal with aircraft in the GRB …
In the end, everything just goes round in circles anyway.
It goes and will go in circles because some don’t understand a simple fact:
Some people just want to play tanks.
Because of that, they can’t understand why TO would be better for the game.
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I find the level of concentration to be so much deeper in times when CAS has been absent.It’s a real focus and " in the zone " type thing and CAS just shatters it.
No tank game touches War Thunder in that tank vs Tank moment,that is why I consider it a positive thing not a criticism to call for TO mode.
Keeping CAS is fine but War Thunder at it’s Tank vs Tank peak is just WT at it’s finest and the game would be doing itself a massive favour by having a TO mode.
It would be Tank gaming heaven and GRB bliss.
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I would appreciate a lower BR for (at least some) SPAAs. For example the Wiesel. It’s almost impossible to use it as an SPAA because the planes almost flying at mach 1 and you only get a machine canon with max vertical angle of ~45°. Practice in test drive doesn’t help either because the ai planes flying much slower.
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I’ve typed out so much, and also deleted it because it’s a well known fact that whatever I put out is derided by stats and mere assumption that I only want to get cheap easy kills and that I’m a bad person for it…
No-one defends my opinion, but I’ll be derided for the days by these sorts of players who think their stats are king, and that anyone else can shut up because checks stats I got more kills than you.
All for the ultimate goal of being able to be blind to any threat, so thus leaves one question… If CAS were to be removed, what would be the next issue they’d want removed because they can’t actually handle the game.
(Edit - Absolutely on-topic, and those false flaggers can go wreck themselves…)
It really takes a lot of practice. And even then, it’s a game of chance due to the high speeds involved. And even with the Kugelblitz, it’s already close to the limit. In a full uptier, you don’t even need to pull it out.
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Nothing will ever happen in this regard since game is geared towards selling premium planes .
When weighted against cold hard cash all of your arguments go straight into the bin .
Same goes for arguments about BR’s for Tanks …
Another solution ,play Russians since all their SPAA’s are OP based on Sekrit documents
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Play them first before you make such claims.
Simple
Historic loadouts + limits how many planes can spawn per match
Spawn points get bot AAA …one from 10 updates ago from RB
How does this statement relate to the fact that you didn’t play a single Russian SPAA in GRB? In general, your experience with Russian vehicles in the game is limited to the fact that you have only experienced them as opponents. 71 rounds in Russian vehicles in relation to your 15k+ battles indicate a clear lack of experience in handling Russian vehicles. On what do you base your claim that all Russian SPAA are OP? … you didn’t mention any specific SPAA so I assume you’re referring to ALL of them.
Secret documents? Nice claim that you will never be able to prove nor can anyone disprove. Therefore irrelevant.
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Honestly, screw top tier anyways. That’s the only place CAS-haters really have an actual argument to make.
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