Another CAS post, so yeah I partially agree, if you want to fix it, do what enlisted does, and put a timer on when you can use aircraft after starting the match.
Well I wasn’t saying it wouldn’t resolve issues for some, but not all players have the same stance.
But this thread can resolve issues for players with a different want than say TO advocates.
I just am unsure why you all abandoned the TO thread where that stance is more relevant. But such is this forum.
Fortunately someone posted a Cap and Fly video, showing that this method can be used to intercept CAS since getting an Interceptor is even quicker and easier. They might miss the first air to ground kill but after that there is less threat from CAS; why this topic exists…
It only matches didn’t last only 10 mins anyway… ☹️
It doesn’t matter if all players have the same stance or not, with accition of a gamemode for pure tankers, there would be no pure tankers in combined mode, aka:
That stance would be just true. No one could say that he just wants to use tanks as there would be a dedicated place for it meaning that all ‘use SPAA/Air’ responses could be seen as real solutions.
Of course it can be used that way, but it doesn’t solve the issue of people in a tank which is mostly where people have the issue.
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Airfield spawn as mentioned is an important start, significantly delays CAS, removes revenge bombing by a significant amount, taking a heavier loadout actually negative impacts your travel time.
Higher SP cost, a single kill or cap should not be enough to spawn a fully loaded plane, SP also needs to add up with every single bomb as to not make the biggest loadout the most valid option.
Removing markers for air, no idea why they get hit markers and scouting targets from several kilometers away when they only have to search in a small 1x1 square most the time, whilst air operates in a massive 360 degree environment and at best we got a general direction with a command.
No intel on capture zones, it’s a giant ‘come kill me’ when you try to capture a zone with planes in the area, they are not on the ground, they should have no way of knowing the status of a zone.
Clean fighters should be cheaper, but the problem is that many can still have strong enough belts to be used as CAS, so they’d need to rework belts to only have a low pen belt and even then they could still be a risk.
SPAA gets the scouting ability to mark planes for 1 minute, also allows for scouting assists to help with rewards.
At higher BRs they should be a basic radar for everything that informs the player that a plane is up and it’s general direction, no military operates without long range radars and having to rely on the Mk1 eyeball is stupid when missiles get launched from several km away, it’s impossible.
Something like a radar that updates every 10 seconds that detects enemy planes in a general area.
Remove attack drones, it’s stupid.
Actual sights for SPAA so you’re not firing third person and getting blinded by muzzle flash.
More proxy SPAA or vehicles with AA capabilities that aren’t Russian.
Never allow planes to outrange SPAA.
And this one doesn’t even consider the issue that you cannot hit targets at close range either.
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Bigger maps, more objectives, more players.
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Again, you’re welcome.
Well I’ve always held the notion it’s in poor taste. But we can agree that campers can camp all they want but deservedly risk having a bomb dropped on them if they don’t have the tactical acumen to relocate occasionally. Because if CAS has time to take off from an airfield, reach the battlefield and find the camper still sitting behind the same bush or rock they have clearly overstayed their welcome.
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make the SP cost of spawning A2A jets really low
SPAA not really matched well against the guided munitions right now, its too easy to fly perpendicular to SPAA while guiding in bombs.
I feel like the balance between heli and SPAA is pretty good, but jets just have it too easy.
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not really… Camping or even the concept of camping (being a bad thing) is Asinine.
Its a Tank… most are designed to get into a good position and shoot/defend, then relocating, usually advancing into enemy territory…
If you have a good spot where you can shoot and not be shot very easily that is simply superior play (usually coupled with superior map/vehicle knowledge)
So, the notion that camping is “bad” is, again, Extremely stupid. Camp, dont camp, do whatever gets you better results.
CAS players didn’t make War Thunder, I know you are too unable to work this out like many others.
If you don’t like people using planes in a game with a mode with planes then… well it is obvious.
Maybe ask Gaijin, the Devs who make the game, all these questions rather than random players (yes I think the removal of vehicles in a strong position is a weak argument, but never seen Gaijin state it so just a random players opinion).
You know, asking Gaijin but not hidden in a Survey reply where there is no proof is a good start.
Shame you guys seem to attack anyone using planes unless they also have to have a mode just for their specific need…
you are too simpe
Excuse me… I am what? Please clarify if this is supposed to be an insult or not before I waste time reading the rest of your post.
Mucked it up and had not finished. In a low signal area, didn’t realise it had sent.
Where am I attacking anyone exactly?
Oh, are you all the “you guys”? Didn’t realise you had multiple accounts (that last sentence is sarcasm)
Don’t answer the relevant parts, it seems to be a trend of certain members here…
This is a response to your “CAS people say” comment. And by CAS you mean any plane used in GFRB since we know it is a veiled insult.
But reply like you did nothing of the sort…
And @Miragen it is a shame since your previous post was spot on. If you are in the mood when you posted that, and not the mood you were in during second one, I’d be interested in the airfield spawn one on particular as could do with a refinement.
Edit: Spawn SPAA works, sorry; and to be clear I mean it also works a lot better than doing nothing at all. Just not at particular BRs, which is why stating which BR a conversation is concerning helps.
Yes, glad we agree!
Oh, are you all the “you guys”?
I am the guy you replied to so I assume the things in the post that is directed at me are meant to be directed at me.
Don’t answer the relevant parts, it seems to be a trend of certain members here…
They keep it relevant instead of adding irrelevant parts? I couldn’t avoid the relevant parts if it was all relevant… but alas.
This is a response to your “CAS people say” comment. And by CAS you mean any plane used in GFRB since we know it is a veiled insult.
It’s an insult if you want to be insulted, it’s obviously a jab at the dumb argument that is supposed to justify CAS because 1 out of a 100 kills you get with CAS ended up being against a semi-valid target and not people in spawn, people trying to capture objective, not people just normally playing the game.
That doesn’t justify CAS, that doesn’t justify an A-6 bombing tanks from 10km in the air, or helicopters shooting missiles from behind cover, or SU’s shooting missiles from god knows how far, or a AU-1 carrying as much as a heavy bomber because that one time there was a guy camping.
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The last part was more general. Hence “guys”.
Yes, I agree it is a poor argument regarding “it is a solution to”, but no one made it, you just put up a flame post which was not needed (unless it was by someone I have blocked, but you did not have it linked to any other comment). That is what I replied to.
Now, you again miss the main point by being awkward. That being why ask other players why aircraft are in the mode when Gaijin are there who made the decision. Do you not understand the replies from other players are their “feelings” and not Gaiins official response, which is how these replies are taken?
Why do you feel the need to aggravate? Or am I the bad one for pointing out rants, stat shaming, making up what has been said? (Yeah, found a few of them scummers) The previous post was so constructive (minus the Just use SPAA general misrepresentation; this is not just about higher tiers).
And this IS a topic accepting planes are part of the mode, not the other type of topic lost due to lack of interest I presume.
I know, I said I generally agree…
Since you are not going to understand the difference between postive actions and silly posts like your second one I’ll move forward:
So, airfield spawns is a good idea (was always skeptical due to how the runway might get locked down by the enemy, but can do that at airspawn now anyway). An issue the alteration will bring is you will no longer see them spawn in (keep eye out for black dots after an enemy is killed, spam air alert, works at mid to low).
It might not be an issue but aircraft would be potentially more sneaky and not spotted until too late, while countering those players on the revenge bomb of course, I understand the issue.
So a possible alteration could be, to stop airfield spawns possibly creating a new problem (not spotting them spawning in/getting to battle), the display/alert of a message to the team that “aircraft are seen leaving the enemy airfield”. Only because currently, for the most part, as soon as those black dots appear you can get ready for an attack, with airfiekd spawns they would be less noticeable until too late (yes you can dump alt at spawn to hope you are not noticed but not the same as AF spawning).
And that was all to you incase you got confused.
That being why ask other players why aircraft are in the mode when Gaijin are there who made the decision
Where am I asking other players about this?
Why do you feel the need to aggravate?
I posted a freaking meme dude.
Since you are not going to understand the difference between postive actions and silly posts like your second one I’ll move forward
Positive actions like starting you reply with seemingly calling me simple minded right out of the gate or getting angry over a meme.