If you could, how would you re-balance CAS in Ground Battles?

But responding to an issue with saying “just dont die” isnt silly?

Issue isnt question of how to use cover, but its aviability.

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And that is the crux of the matter, premium helicopters, tanks, IFVs and aircraft a neatly packaged “top tier” line up.

Making the aircraft unplayable or too expensive to spawn and players will be frustrated. And not buy more premium aircraft.

Gaijin have broken the balance and the contract of the game with the player. “No top tier premiums” well we have them you can pretend they are not top tier but they clearly are. I genuinely believe it is this misguided approach that has killed War Thunder.

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This is the result of their ignorance to the real problem.
It’s very hard to get into cas these days which is frustrating and discouraging for playing ground rb.

No my friend. War thunder is more alive than ever. It has more online players daily than it did at it’s peak last year. Numbers were about 120k in day time and 80k at night time.
Now it is about 150k day and 100k night.

Since there is no competition they keep growing. As soon as a single half-made competition shows up, these guys are smoked.

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Seeds take time to grow, 5 years time - 10 years time.
The new players who joined the game at top tier and have nothing further to unlock will not buy 130 pound premiums.
So yes stating look how healthy the game is now matters not when Gaijin keep self sabotaging.

CAS is stupidly easy to get into a cap a kill and you are pretty much there.

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Not dying is literally the easy part.

You would face the same availability issues against tanks that you would against planes. If you know how to use cover against tanks, you know how to use cover against planes.

Thats not true, position can offer cover against tanks but not against plane that has altitude and thus can look over the cover.

For example, sand dunes. I can be perfectly concealed below horizon against a tank, but plane can see me.

Once again issue of ability to use cover =/= issue of aviability of cover.

You might take up on your own advice then.

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Because?

See the dunes example.

People living in glass houses shouldnt throw stones.

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One of the very few things we actually agree on since this is already a thing in naval with ship launched float planes.

Engagement baiting.

There’s so many maps where you can have cover from enemy fire and be completely exposed to getting a bomb dropped on your skull.

I can only think of one or two maps where you can be almost completely protected by bombs but it heavily restricts your ability to engage enemy vehicles.

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Oh i expect said argument isnt made in good faith because if he had anything to prove me wrong, hed outright say why i am wrong instead of retreating to saying “false” without further elaboration.

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Still waiting

I hope you have your tent and sleeping bag ready.

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At the moment I’m supervising the project where most things already works, so I have a lot of spare time.

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no thx, CAS is already hard nerfed!

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So tank only mode when?

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No it’s not lol

You gave no evidence or reasoning for your original claim. Claims made without evidence can be refuted without evidence.

Refer to my earlier point of, if you’re not near cover, you’re using it wrong.

Or at the very least, don’t whine about being sniped or bombed if you do drive out in the open.

Take your own advice. You come to the forums whining about CAS, yet everyone who doesn’t struggle against CAS is simply bad at the game?

It’s hard to spot enemies from 2+ miles away, even with a bird’s eye view. Most CAS players rely one:

  • Scout and hit markers

  • Checking regular paths drove by tanks

  • Quick scanning open fields

  • Checking spawn

I do think planes should only be able to see scout and hit markers against SPAA, however even right now, you can completely evade 75% of ways CAS can spot you. Even when you are spotted, a lot of people underestimate the power of moving a few feet.

You don’t need cover that makes you impossible to bomb, you just need cover that doesn’t place you exactly where CAS players expect your team to be.

seems like reasoning with an example.

I know you might struggle with this, so let me help you. Issue of aviability of cover =/= issue of using the cover. If no cover providing protection or at least concealment from aircraft exists in the first place, it cannot be used.

Or are you disputing fact that aircraft can see over terrain that blocks ground line of sight?

Profile - Pangolin_Fan - War Thunder — official forum Quite interesting claim from someone with your post history.

interesting statement considering you have previously argued that SPAA is oppressive.

also not my position so have fun attacking it, i suppose.

EDIT: False flagging wont work, Pangolin.

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Not really. You’re just making blatantly false statements then trying to pass them as true with no reasoning.

All maps have cover, so we circle back to the original issue that you’re not using cover correctly.

I did not call “SPAA” oppressive. I make have called some individual vehicles like the Yak-9K or Gepard oppressive, but not “SPAA.”

You know you have no argument, so you’re just trying to argue with things never said.

What map allows me to hide from planes in a way that he can’t attack me from any angle?

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