Considering your other stats it proves only this 1 thing
I doubt it can be applied to majority of players
Considering your other stats it proves only this 1 thing
I doubt it can be applied to majority of players
I haven’t played the Type 87 since I was grinding the Japanese tree all the way back in 2018 or something this takes me back to the dark days of playing the Japanese tech tree
It proves much more than Games that You have showed and empty words
Didnt disprove any of my statements regardless stats. Those few battles were examples.
Im curious about your thoughts on those 2 samples (both are much bigger than your sample, cover much more players and have much more weight):
Probably that I’m talking about low/mid tiers
Played 5 matches exclusively using the PGZ09 and PGZ04A while recording the amount of air targets I saw, wasn’t threatened by CAS in any of them as most of the deaths were by tanks


Just played one with the WZ305, only saw three air targets but there might’ve been more considering it’s harder to count when you don’t have a radar, wasn’t threatened by CAS at all even when the Me 262 tried to dive on me. All deaths and damage done by tanks

Are you trying to prove our point?
If the best those things, with guided missiles can do is ~ 1 air-kill per spawn, then what you think it’s like in open-topped spaa with no radar and guns.
CAS has an obvious advantage. Why do you think so many players have GROUND KILLS with them?
look at A-10A, Wyvern S.4, A-10A Late, Su-25, A2D-1, Do 335 B-2, AM-1, AD-4 for just to name a few.
But high/top tiers are also part of this game. And they also have cas/spaa. And OP wasnt about low/mid brs only. Im looking at whole thing from high/top tier player. Doesnt mean I cant see that ns-45 must be nerfed to atl kingcobra levels by removing aphe. Same about mid br us fighters.
Go ahead and try to get, lets say, 8 frags on US top tier cas versus 0.65 pantsir. Its so weak judging by stats.
Well you are skewing the results with your method.
Jumping in an spaa when there’s no air targets will of course result in no air-kills. You have to spawn intelligently. No enemy air units - spawn something else.
And yet, the A10 does get frags. As do the others I pointed out.
My point was CAS isn’t nearly as omnipresent as people say and you can very easily deal with them by just using AAs or having AAs on your team such as the XM247 on the second match
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Have you played any of those? 10.3 and 10.0 versions specifically?
None of a10s you mentioned face pantsir s1, let alone sm sv. Only a10c variant. If pantsir s1 is that weak, go ahead and farm easy kills with a10c.
You mean the M247?
Battles = 25,281,718
Air-Kills = 13,368,602
Yeah the M247 from the match I was in, got 5 air kills, I don’t care about your stats without any context lol
So the only Tier where spaa might be dominant is top-tier?
Because you have yet to demonstrate spaa that have even close to the battle-kill ratios of the CAS I mentioned above.
And guess what - this part of the discussion all started with the other poster saying it’s no problem to handle CAS in non-top-tier battles. I say otherwise.
But we have beaten this like a rented mule, so there’s no point in continuing the discussion.
PGZ09 isn’t top tier
PGZ04A isn’t top tier
WZ305 isn’t top tier either
M247 also isn’t top tier
Played all of them and had no issues dealing with CAS
We already discussed the first 3 - which you actually played.
Where exactly did you play the m247?