Go to statshark.
Filter for air units … ranks 1-4, and sort by ground kills.
You will see a lot of strike aircraft (CAS, not CAP) that have ground-kill to battle ratios close to 1. A significant # above 1 and some even at 2+.
Now
Filter for ground units… ranks 1-4 and sort by air kills.
You will see a LOT of the spaa units with ratios much less than 1. Good luck finding any that have ratio 1.5-2.0
The spaa are NOT getting the job done.
At low/mid tiers air has advantage and I know that because I use it and can destroy SPAA without dying.
This doesn’t account for the majority of SPAA players who aren’t doing their job and are instead loading AP and tank hunting. If CAS gets the drop on you they’re going to kill you just as easily as any other tank; and if you’re not constantly watching the skies as SPAA they’re going to get the drop on you.
It doesn’t matter HOW the spaa players are using their time on the battlefield.
The CAS are killing ground units (of all types) faster than the spaa are shooting them down.
You’ve missed the entire point of the thread.
I’ve had plenty of matches where I was the only AA doing anything because people “wanted to play tanks” you’re just losing it over deaths that were mostly caused by the enemy team rushing our spawn
That is why the best solution is to have a mode for people who just want to play tanks. It would balance combined mode.
As I said before - this number is meaningless because it includes deaths from ground units. Oh and also I just noticed. Tell me please, what do plz05 and type99 have to do with spaa? Thats 33% of sample you took.
I would suggest you going ahead and checking their replays where you can see how they fight vs planes in their spaa. You seem to struggle with reading stats and blend in vehicles that have nothing to do with spaa.
I assume they add the PLZ05 because I mentioned liking the tank, the HE-VT it gets is nice and all but I’ve never in my life claimed to be good at hitting planes with it, it’s a handy gimmick to have against helis and that’d be it
HE-VT ammo - poster indicated they like to use that ammo to “counter” CAS. As do many other players.
“Idk I tend to do well enough with proxy fuze AA”
But let’s take PLZ05 out of equation and add in Type 87 (118 air-kills in 346 battles)
(Pretty sure I’m allowed to include Type 87 as it’s classified as … SPAA, right?)
So overall it’s 612 / 1577 = 0.39 Stats barely changed from original post.
I never once included deaths in the stats. Air-Kills vs Battles.
Discussion was about spaa tho, not about anything that has hevt.
Exclude type99 as well.
Didnt notice that, my bad then.
And still you ignore factors like stock grind on chinese wz (to get he vt you must play tons of battles as temu td) and fact that sometimes planes dont spawn at all or teammates steal the kill. Hence why I still think you should analyze their replays.
Upd.:Here is why I think raw stats are meaningless.
You realize the HE-VT is used against air targets right? I know you know because of your reference about researching HE-VT.
Done.
Re-worked numbers are … 592/1523 = 0.39. Wow, the change in the numbers is … ZERO.
It still doesnt make one spaa. Just like timed fuse shells on mbt or roof machine guns. It is bonus but not primary thing.
Also read upd. part please
This is RB topic
The problem is that almost no planes spawned when I tried to kill some in grb
There is a huge difference for SPAA in AB and RB
Not denying that. I went there because cas spawns much more often. This also proves unreliability of stats because it is not my or spaa issue, its cas pilots who refuse to spawn.
Yup.
I have no problems completing the spaa missions to kill planes in Arcade.
Doing so in RGB - different can of worms.
Lmao.
In most cases SPAA can be killed outside of its Effective range and it can’t do anything about it
Havent got outranged once today besides maybe one tram (tho they missed). But thats issue of tram, one particular p2w jet which is better at its job than other 10.7 and even 11.0 strike aircraft
And I was able to kill many SPAA trying to kill me as I knew what I was doing.
My stats in Yak-9K/UT, and F4U-4B done only in GRB prove that
