Su30sm2 has a ground-kill per spawn ratio of 0.5. Do you think that’s impressive? Seems we need to buff toptier CAS?
And for whoever complained … wow.
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- I demonstrated you picked a poor example of spaa to complain about
- Then you went out and searched for some random example of a jet that I was not complaining about, and…
- You picked an example of a fighter that spends more time in combat with other air units, as evidenced by it’s air-kill-to-spawn ratio of 1.02.
- That would be like me complaining the Skink kinda sucks at killing ground units.
- I hope you have recovered.
- I want to show you how bad the data provided is. There are a lot of SPAA’s statstic pretty bad, but can’t prove they are actually bad, the death is not only from sky.
2.The jet engine example just goes to show how absurd your data is.This isn’t “describe the picture.”There are a lots of cases you can dig into, even some of “OP” CAS like Yak9k, its K/D also not good as well, and we don’t know how many kills are bots
- Understand where the data comes from and learn how to filter out white noise and confounding factors. If you haven’t studied statistics before, I recommend watching some videos on YouTube.
4.It’s not hard to admit your mistakes.
None of what you have posted makes any sense or applies to to discussion.
But "keep digging " and maybe you’ll find something relevant. I have my doubts, but it IS possible.
Admit my mistake? I make plenty. But my comments on the Skink are not one of them. You chose a poor example. Now move on.
Aside from complaining, as I suspected, you have no way of proving the reliability of the data.
Skink’s K/D(only air) is even better than some of cold war SPAAs, even though their guns are better.
I don’t want to waste too much time with people who don’t understand statistics. If you don’t know how to account for deaths caused by bots or other factors
Quick check, guess which one is Skink’s ammo
Hint: it is close to MK103
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Could a dedicated PvE mode for self-propelled anti-aircraft guns be added? This would allow players to practice barrage defense with SPAA vehicles and increase their deterrent effect. At the very least, it would benefit air-ground balance before surface-to-air missiles and proximity fuses become available. I think it would be great fun for multiple players to use SPAA vehicles together, putting up a flak screen to intercept medium- and high-altitude aircraft formations. It could also serve as a new casual defense mode.
We can do custom battles , SPAA vs AI planes. Done so for almost every radarless SPAA and modern SAM. Also wondered around looking for good spots for them.
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If possible, I would still prefer to have daily rewards to motivate everyone to practice using self-propelled anti-aircraft guns. This would effectively balance and improve the matchmaking environment before surface-to-air missiles, radar, and proximity-fuse shells become available. It could also attempt to simulate the operation of real-world anti-aircraft positions, such as those used on the North African battlefields during World War II.
Reliability? It’s raw numbers. You can choose to interpret them in a fantasy way if you like but it does not prove your point.
Just because Skink is better than some anti-air does make it a great spaa (that needs to be feared as you suggest). Some vehicles just suck more than others suck.
“bots and other factors”. You must adhere to the straw-man logic.
Why don’t we just assume the Easter Bunny and Leprechaun’s affect the stats as well.
I would remove RU from Game = 99% Balance Issues solved
I’ll do you one better, posting the WHOLE shell comparison chart instead of one cropped to show the stink favorably.
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Better idea, have the Skink moved up to face vehicles that can actually threaten it.
Lol, lmao.
Stink is overtiered full stop
Hell no.
Like planes at its B.R.?
I’m not playing CAS, planes aren’t interesting for me especially in GROUND RB. If i wanted play planes, there’s SEPARATE mode for that.
Don’t get what you trying to say… “Ground is suffering and it’s well deserved” you just confessed CAS is overpowered. Yeah typical CAS player.
Got destroyed by something i can’t defend myself, can’t see, can’t hear, can’t fight back is silly.
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Well that’s what a team is for. Other people, or yourself, can spawn in an SPAA and all of the sudden you can see them, you can hear them and you can fight back.
And I get that some people are mentally slow and can’t do their job. But war thunder is team vs team for a reason, so that people can fulfill different roles. If no one is in an SPAA, that’s not the fault of the person playing CAS.
Unfortunately, you are using the most powerful guns to compare, the 23 and 25mm cannon are also used on some 8.0-9.3 vehicles, and using the wrong alt and angle.
Let’s suppose shooting an air target at 60 degrees, before 1500m away, there is almost no difference.
By the way, Wirbelwind is the worst one, the only reason people feel Skink is bad is the fire rate, and then I recomand to use T77E1(also super powerful)
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It is sounds like WOT/WWS who complain about the SPG or CVs, if you don’t play, and then you deserve it, or you can ask Gaijin or any other producer to create a new game mode, by the way I’m playing CAS and they are really interesting for me in GRB.
Ground is suffering because they like you who not play planes and SPAAs, that’s why they need to suffer or deserve it.