and CAS does require positioning?
you just fly, click on enemies, turn around and run, and get kills.
if there is a SPAA, you might have to fly low, thats the only strategy.
its 0 IQ vs 0IQ gameplay at best
except it still isnt balanced, because CAS is even more useful without SPAA, while SPAA is useless without enemy aircraft
Remove all SPAAs, make planes free (only with air to air loadouts only) and give a free plane to players with no planes to give them a chance against CAS.
Yes. CAS requires 24/7 consideration of your positioning.
That would only work in an RB EC game mode.
Apart from the obvious remove all planes which would invalidate SPAAs anyways because majority cant even kill tanks, what else do we have? SPAAs have no role in GRB apart from killing planes and they’re not even that good at killing CAS. Most teams also don’t have an SPAA up at all times or don’t have it because premium lineup. Honestly I would say SPAAs actually make CAS even more potent because they pressure the only real counter (CAP) and also people spawning in SPAAs solely to kill the CAP aircraft which then lets more players spawn CAS with no issues. They also can set up with helis to make it more toxic by shooting down any missiles with their own to keep the heli alive. It literally doesn’t help solve the issue, it only causes more issues.
And what about players who…
Again, you have the easy solution of removing all planes, helis and SPAA. Also unless you enjoy sitting there, looking at your radar screen 24/7 or get hunted by CAS forcing you to relocate every minute then obviously there is no good solution to the CAS issue except doing the most obvious.
Or instead of removing planes just add a new gamemode without them?
And then what about SPAAs? Unless you’re fine with 90% or more being useless and having no role apart from the occasional TD SPAA stuff, which most people do not like playing against, you have a dozen vehicles that serve 0 purpose gathering dust in the garage.
Well, I’m legally blind (seriously) so the fact that I can hit anything is a small miracle :)
If the AC is flying slow, straight and level, sure. But a pilot that is maneuvering, and more importantly keeping speed up, makes the tracking radar pretty ineffective.
Why would you say that?
Tank Only mode is ANOTHER OPTION
So we introduce a new gamemode where a specific class of tanks called Anti-air is used in a gamemode where air doesn’t exist. Making a new game mode just to get rid of planes and helis while also making most SPAAs useless because their main job is now gone when we can just remove all 3 of these seems a little redundant right?
SPAA and aircraft can still play GRB and arcade.
they will just be useless for this specific gamemode.
is air RB redundant?
is it unfair that tanks cant be used in air RB?
probably not
So we make that new gamemode, doesn’t GRB seem redundant if so many asked for removal of planes? Are we going to keep the old gamemode just so a select few get to continue use SPAA, planes and helis? Also for the tanks in ARB point, it literally says Air realistic battles. Don’t need to say more do I? I also made the point if the mode is called Ground realistic battles, SPAAs are redundant because there is only ground and ground only.
But Grb is literally called ground realistic battles not air rb with extra steps 🤣
No one’s removing anything with tank only it would be a choice the current mode stays the same but people have the option to play a tank only mode minus aircraft and helis if they want to
I’m completely aware but you do know you’re just creating an option where one class is useless except in very niche circumstances and then have a schism in the ground gamemode with 2 factions because you’re catering to one specific playerbase and leaving the other alone just so this one class of tanks stays in the game with little purpose when you can go remove SPAA, planes and helis and everyone is happy.
How when it can still be used in the normal mode which remains unchanged?
Tank Only is literally that no heli’s, no Air just ground vehicles wheeled and tracked light, heavy and medium.
Why would anti air systems be needed in that mode if there is no air but air is still available in the current unchanged original ground mode?
You play one or you choose to play the other. It’s a choice nothing is removed, nothing changes with existing modes people gain an additional gamemode to play.
Again, you have this large playerbase that doesn’t want to play no CAS and you have another smaller playerbase who wants to play with CAS. Do you think they will want to make another server, another gamemode when you can remove all 3 and be done with it? You’re asking to complicate servers just to accommodate the larger playerbase and leave the smaller ones to their own devices which may or may not die out which then leaves the new main gamemode of ground only alive which features 0 planes 0 helis for SPAAs to shoot at.
yes, GRB would be redundant for most players.
but as others always say, CAS and SPAA are still a big part of GRB currently, so you cant just casually delete them from the game.
but that doesnt mean tank-only would be redundant
then you can say that about GRB as well
🤷 not my problem I just want the choice but the player base is absolutely large enough to adjust to a new choice.
If the numbers were small akin to say the dcs online community which tops out at about 5k players I wouldn’t want it, But the last I looked warthunder is pushing 100k players + the 5 naval players on a daily basis for the majority of a 24hour span.
I know some people struggle with what to choose for breakfast daily but struggling to choose is better than having no choice at all which is the current case.