Yeah ill agree with you on the choice, but in my opinion, I wouldn’t be surprised with the outcome which I think is the no CAS at all. But we know Gaijin doesn’t care even when we all just asked for the removal of CAS from GRB. I’m just saying, the CAS issue has a lot of factors and SPAA overshadows CAS itself in my opinion on the matter. Removing this massive tumor in the system would probably fix most of the issues.
There are too many players invested with CAS resources. Not a chance GRB will disappear.
Those players might have a more difficult time because if EVERYONE wants to go up in the air there will be fewer ground targets to feed on. But I won’t have much sympathy there.
Only real downside is each mode will have a longer queue time than GRB currently has. I’m willing to put up with that, and I’m sure many of those that want TO will agree.
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You may be fine with longer queue times but I’m not fine with it, same goes for many who will inevitably face severe matchmaking issues because mainly if you want CAS, it’ll be Russia which means itll be very skewered and you’ll probably get more mixed battles and also the upkeep just to have another server for this mode. Again this is a lose lose situation. There will be a loss somewhere and SPAAs are the easiest one to get rid of but again, polling would be better to determine this.
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Soo losing pilots is loose loose, but losing ground players (and potential new players from WOT) okay?
Strange for me.
Best solution would be event, for 1-2 week to see activities on TO and regular servers, how many players will play regularly TO and how many GB with CAS. Maybe we loosing more ground players (and potential money spends) then pilots.
We just need small experiment to see situation clearly, but… Gaijin doesn’t care about players and game itself we all agree about it.
yes, unfortunately players already spent a lot of time and money to grind SPAA and CAS, and there will still be a few thousand players who will want to play mixed battles.
its impossible (and stupid) to remove this outright.
balancing will hardly be separate, tank vs tank stays the same in both modes.
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Gajin just doesn’t care about TO cause it’s a niche and unprofitable portion of the community.
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Once again as my Chieftain is overpressured by a single 30mm HEI hitting the corner of the UFP from a Pantsir - broken overpressure and SPAA v tanks is a bigger problem than CAS can ever currently be.
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Are you sure it was Pantir instead Gepard?
Was Pantsir but Gepard would do the same.
Sounds like the usual Gaijin logic
Lets ignore and neglect this part of the game, make it not fun, not rewarding and frustrating to play where it becomes niche.
Oh would you look at that, it’s a niche so we won’t do anything since it’s not profitable.
Bombers, tanks, Sim, arcade, naval. if you let these things run into the ground it will become niche, if you actually cultivate it and put in actual effort and listen to the players that want to play it, it wouldn’t be niche, as if players who want to play a tank v tank thing without being blown up from a pixel 10km away is a niche thing.
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Bombers, sim, and naval are the perfect example because they too are niche things that very few players care about.
Putting effort into bombers, naval, and sim won’t magically increase the interest in those game modes. The few players who are already interested might play em more, but that’s about it. They only thing Gajin would achieve is missing out on money they could have earned from the primary demographic.
No reason why there wouldn’t be interest in them, but who is going to fly bombers when their gameplay is abysmal and either impossible or boring, and in any case unrewarding, planes straight up made out of paper mache and gunners who seemingly have no idea what they are supposed to do or how they can do it leaving you to awkwardly try and fend them off yourself with anemic guns and weird third person offset, gun paralax thing that makes it impossible to hit anything consistently, only to run out of ammo or start a 40 second reload for again, god knows what reason.
Even if you somehow look past all that and still want to play it, and you’re trying to kill time whilst flying towards something and you dare to look at the cockpit, comparing it to PS1 graphics would be a compliment because this company that is raking in millions of dollars for doing practically nothing refuses to spend a little bit of it bringing their entire game to a basic level of quality.
Which cannot even be excused as people pay money for that, a premium vehicle and they refuse to reinvest the profits into the vehicle that made them the money, granted even premium jets have fallen victim to this complete lack of quality, like the Ariete.
Investing in other aspects of the game that isn’t top tier jets doesn’t mean you lose profits elsewhere, instead you diversify and don’t let every other aspect of your game go to shit just to cater to jet pilots.
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Even if all those issues were fixed, people still wouldn’t be playing bombers cause bombers just aren’t what ppl wanna play.
Oh didn’t know you asked every single Warthunder player and every future potential Warthunder player about their preferences and interests and every one of them did not want to play bombers.
I would play bombers if they were fun and rewarding, but they’re not.
I would play naval if it was fun and rewarding, and it’s neither.
I would play tanks if it was fun and rewarding, and it’s neither.
I would give Gaijin money if they deserved it, but they don’t.
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See why Gajin isn’t appealing to players like you?
Yeah, why cater to the player with expectations when there are so many out there who have none and praise them for doing the bare minimum if even that, foaming at the mouth of whatever toy they release next to satiate the hunger for a few days before they’re back in the ‘Next update’ thread fantasizing about what is next.
If more people actually had standards they wouldn’t have a choice however, but alas.
It’s why this game forever will fail to utilize it’s potential and remain mediocre at the best of days until there’s actual competition.
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Why cater to the minority who aren’t the target audience?
Any group that is not catered to are going to be a minority unless you cater to them so they can actually grow into more than that.
Why cater to vegetarians when there are never vegetarians in your store? Does it have anything to do with the fact that you only sell meat? Surely not.
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Yes Gaijin doesn’t care about game and players, we already know that.
But how you know it’s unprofitable??
As i said, we have to do research first and then decide if it’s unprofitable.
youre wrong, except partially about being unprofitable.
if TO was added, a part of gaijins shitty monetization scheme would become ineffective because players wouldnt be pushed to buy SPAA and CAS out of pure rage