If you could, how would you re-balance CAS in Ground Battles?

Nope

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Just because you and you in particular are somehow bad at using FnF weapons doesn’t mean they’re bad.

Didn’t say they were bad. I said they were not as OP as was claimed, and did not offset the advantage held by AC. That does not = “bad”

Personally, I’d consider an SPAA that can completely shut down the airspace even in a full uptier to be op. But what do I know? I’m just a noob with “bad” stats in all my SPAA. (2.0 K/D v.s air in LAV-AD and 7.0 if you count only air deaths)

That’s ok, although almost a full br above what we were talking about, it’s not that bad. Pretty good actually, and even better you got to tell us about your l33t skillz. I know I’m feeling pretty warm and fuzzy about it, so all good.

What would be “bad” is folks that flag posts to mods for deletion when said post shows how incorrect their previous post was. Fortunately that’s not how you roll…

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Actually, I’m pretty bad. My aiming skills are awful (hence why I play WT instead of FPS’s). I also suck at just general situational awareness and positional awareness which leads me to getting killed to blatantly obvious enemies.

Look at my M4 or my M18 stats. The M4 is one of the best tanks in Warthunder and I don’t even have a half decent K/D in it. The only vehicles that my stats are good in are the wildly OP vehicles like Kv-7, VK 3002, and above all else, SPAA. The fact that the LAV-AD doesn’t require any aiming (lead indicator and FnF missiles) or any positioning skills outside of view of sky without view of tanks is the sole reason my K/D is good in it.

BF 109 K and it would rip its wings on that speed and long before it even tho its pretty decent plane. Why I said above is when i literally got gunned out from sky way too easy and way too far. It was prolly M163 US AA with radar and minigun. Now im not familiar with us ground forces but it kinda tilted me to face radar traced minigun with ww2 slow shit.

Those gepards are pretty op when ppl have aimbot on it and pilot snipe u from kilometers away…

I hope that You have a way to show how many times You have died to air that is not „trust me bro”

Edit: flagging that? Really? That is just a question.

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and CAS does require positioning?
you just fly, click on enemies, turn around and run, and get kills.
if there is a SPAA, you might have to fly low, thats the only strategy.

its 0 IQ vs 0IQ gameplay at best
except it still isnt balanced, because CAS is even more useful without SPAA, while SPAA is useless without enemy aircraft

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Remove all SPAAs, make planes free (only with air to air loadouts only) and give a free plane to players with no planes to give them a chance against CAS.

Yes. CAS requires 24/7 consideration of your positioning.

That would only work in an RB EC game mode.

Apart from the obvious remove all planes which would invalidate SPAAs anyways because majority cant even kill tanks, what else do we have? SPAAs have no role in GRB apart from killing planes and they’re not even that good at killing CAS. Most teams also don’t have an SPAA up at all times or don’t have it because premium lineup. Honestly I would say SPAAs actually make CAS even more potent because they pressure the only real counter (CAP) and also people spawning in SPAAs solely to kill the CAP aircraft which then lets more players spawn CAS with no issues. They also can set up with helis to make it more toxic by shooting down any missiles with their own to keep the heli alive. It literally doesn’t help solve the issue, it only causes more issues.

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And what about players who…

  • suck at flying planes or…
  • just have no interest at flying planes?

Again, you have the easy solution of removing all planes, helis and SPAA. Also unless you enjoy sitting there, looking at your radar screen 24/7 or get hunted by CAS forcing you to relocate every minute then obviously there is no good solution to the CAS issue except doing the most obvious.

Or instead of removing planes just add a new gamemode without them?

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And then what about SPAAs? Unless you’re fine with 90% or more being useless and having no role apart from the occasional TD SPAA stuff, which most people do not like playing against, you have a dozen vehicles that serve 0 purpose gathering dust in the garage.

Well, I’m legally blind (seriously) so the fact that I can hit anything is a small miracle :)

If the AC is flying slow, straight and level, sure. But a pilot that is maneuvering, and more importantly keeping speed up, makes the tracking radar pretty ineffective.

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Why would you say that?

  1. spaa can be played in arcade
  2. no one is suggesting the removal of GRB so… you can still play spaa there

Tank Only mode is ANOTHER OPTION

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