SPAA usable against aircraft?. Definetly a marketing lie :P
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It’s that Big-Armor marketing tactic xD
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I belive relying on air player being vastly less skilled than You is not what we call balance
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What’s that got to do with this?
Nothing was said about Air, stop harrasing me.
I’m just mearly pointing out things:
Relying on enemy air being vastly less skilled than SPAA player is not what balance is.
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Wouldn’t you know, not everyone has the same skill, or thinking, so things play out different.
Hoping that someone is just less skilled is just straight negative… The boogyman you make out on the regular is there is no counter, and they can’t be got, you’ll never accept that they could be less skilled or just plain unlucky…
Hell, you may not even be the sole SPAA out…
All of this comes to the point that your want to paint out planes as invulnerable, arguments as being about skill, and only skill, as well as reflective stats because you’re just so addicted to checking that crap to deem anyone worthy, is just so deadset on assumption and fearmongering to support your wanted mode.
That’s all… If you were genuinely about discussion and actually conversing, then you’d accept some of these points, but because you’re just you, it’s just beyond reason…
Likewise balancing air based around the idea that ground players will always be bad at the game doesnt work either.
You really haven’t read the comment You have cited when writing this, right?
Because this is what the author have written:
So yea, it is negative and relying on that to call it a balance is not good.
Of course it doesn’t.
The issue is You really can’t balance ground vs air gameplay as air will always have the upper hand no matter how You look at it. Air is moving in 3 dimensional space, and in most cases it doesn’t have to engage the SPAA in order to still destroy ground targets.
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There are better options than just giving you a safe gamemode to play in, and there are better alternatives of fixes to make it better for those who are more lacking.
Indeed it doesn’t, but it does so at its own peril… I wait until they are lined up on target and then drop them, because they aren’t looking at my SPAA, and they’re ending up fixated, and if they wish to keep on target they have to risk that I’m not going to hit them.
I pointed directly at your statement, making out that it was the only thing you could hope for…
Why not a safe mode?
My gameplay in Ground RB: score 1 assist or similar thing, jump into plane, a few ground kills and some plane kills while never touching tanks again, unless I lose 2 planes, then I can go do some tanking, preferably in a bushed up heavy so people don’t even know what they are facing. Hope I’ll get more bushes because they are hilariously OP and pay2win.
I play this way because it’s simply way easier and more relaxing. Most Ground RB plane users are horrible and easy kills in general for my plane.
It doesn’t stop them from completely dominating the ground in most matches when I’m not in the air or vastly outnumbered or just crash myself cause I suck at bombing, lol.
Anyway, when not in the air, I recommend a lot of bushes so people don’t even know what they are facing even if they can see you, and they often can’t. Very funny stuff, GJ Gaijin.
Because it’s not needed, and the only ones demanding it are just being demanding.
It’s not needed because you’d run out of easy kills. Love this logic.
I recommend Air RB if you are actually interested in being competitive.
In Ground RB the “fun” in planes comes from making ground players miserable, as hitting people with 1000lbs bombs is not exactly a challenge and they can’t do anything about it.
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That’s not what I’ve said at all, but that’s just you trying to explain to yourself why anyone doesn’t favour your demand…
Sorry you don’t understand opposing opinions without having to make a villain.
That’s your logic to own, and I’d suggest you seek a refund… It’s not very good.
Reeks of things living in your mind rent-free.
You can by all means go there, I have no care to change my desired modes.
No, they’re trying to win, they don’t want to make your game miserable… You just want to wallow in the mire of being upset that you got got…
Stop wallowing, and making out that everyone is just ruin ing your game because you got got… It’s pitiful.
I’m using T-34-85 + Yak-9K combo and even dropped a few nukes at full uptier.
Love seeing Tiger II H, Jagdtigers, Ferdis etc dying from 45mm APHE nuke they can’t do anything about
You see, I have no problem with tank players having fun in tanks. I’m bad at tanks. But I’d join in. I’m good with planes. But I have a dedicated plane mode.
You are not a villain, just a regular certain hole in the back. It’s a common trait of people enjoying beating somebody who can’t possibly fight back.
Your “desired mode” is just making tank players miserable. Their only option is to use planes too. So it’s either ez mode for horrible players like you or poor man’s air RB.
Nope. If the point was winning, tank only mode allows you a lot of ways to win.
Ground RB is all about making people miserable and unloading player’s own frustration onto others once the former tank player becomes CAS abuser himself. There’s no challenge. The satisfaction comes from the knowledge people are getting frustrated and they can’t do anything to stop you.
In Air RB satisfaction comes from outsmarting and outskilling other people. If I manage to kill a good player or a player in a better plane - I’m happy. If I die - things happen, I had my chance, better luck next time.
In CAS RB boom goes the bomb.
This mode is maliciously exploiting people who simply want to drive tanks, as they will never have a fighting chance once you jump into an EZ mode plane, and their frustration further fuels CAS mains who are outnumbered by their targets thanks to tank mains.
I would simply remove any incentive to be tank mains from Ground RB, because it’s pointless and players should have a clear picture. This mode is about bombing tankers and if you want to be tanker - don’t expect Prokhorovka. Expect Iraqi 1991 experience.
I’m a CAS main myself. And I think playing like this absolutely sucks.
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Do you need a blanky or something?
If you don’t even play tanks, then what’s this all got to do with you?
Yea, no… TO mode is a wished mode for at least 7 years now, and it’s obviously not going anywhere, so stop wishing.
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Way to go to make this political for no reason… What in the trashheap is this garbage?
This is what I was directly referring to… A ‘typical’ ‘CAS hater’ (Read game hater because if it were anything, it likely gets the same response) who can’t handle being got in the game, and are upset enough to make out that someone just does it on purpose just to get them, compared to them merely playing the same game, which involves getting others…
BULLETPROOF LOGIC RIGHT THERE… There is no reason to be so cut up about someone getting you.
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I understand why some might like current state of things as it allows players to not get better.
With TO, You would need to use better tactic, really learn Your vehicle and have a line up allowing You to play on all maps.
With the current state of things, You only need to be able to gather around 600-1000 SP and You are ready to go.
Why bother getting better on the ground when You can just bomb someone? He will come back in SPAA/air? That is good, he won’t be such a problem on the Ground anymore.
Playing with air in mind is easier and always will be. Having TO would mean that all players in the queue to the mixed battles have that in mind, meaning things would get harder for people and no one likes when their fun is taken away.
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Increase spaa rewards
Give eqal spaas to all tech trees (at least in key brs)
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Defeatist sentiments and the “SPAA bad” myth are exactly why players get outplayed and defeated by their opponents.
When you choose to lose or don’t have enough experience to make ___ work, of course you’ll end up defeated: they outplayed you! What brings success (skill) takes time to build up, it doesn’t just come to you.
Most SPAAs die to other GFs, not aircraft. The lack of data filtration in WT is what contributes to the “SPAA bad” myth–not what really happens in battle…especially when you consider capabilities and SP costs too.
While I would say your description of the exact ease with which the Yak-9K moves is probably embellished a tad, I will also fully acknowledge the Yak-9K’s current status is bogus.
Historically, the Yak-9K was regarded as a fat cow, treated by its users as being like a heavy fighter (a la Me 410, Pe-3, etc.) and prone to serious reliability issues.
Reliability is not something that’s ever really reflected in-game (see late war Germany) and flight models’ liberties make such classifications as “heavy” into wobbly critiques…but the first point is clearly at odds with the Yak-9K’s current status in game. The Yak-9K should lumber about like a tank–not run about like a ballerina or anything close.
Although I generally find complaints about CAS to be usually meritless, current critiques of the Yak-9K are valid for the reasons above; they should be answered with a change to the Yak-9K’s modeling, BR or both.
Silkmonger’s thread went back to January 2017 and the idea was likely mulled before then…so it’s even older than that.
The only credible avenue forward I see for realizing a TO ‘mode’ is the ‘trigger queue’ concept…but nobody seems keen to lobby for that and so the TO concept as a whole has now languished. Based on history, I doubt that will change soon (if ever).
As I have said for many years, the fact that TO’s chief proponents have done so little to press for the idea and to pitch various aspects of it (a la the trigger queue concept) has likely hurt it in the eyes of the developers. Their thinking is likely along the lines of ‘if they (TO hopefuls) care so little for this, what must others think?’
I’ve always thought increasing air kills with SPAAs to 400% (versus rewards for ground kills by SPAAs) was a good incentive…just an arbitrary number but I think it’d be enticing.
If aircraft truly are so prevalent, there have to be people willing to chase that SL…
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