If the F-15C MSIP II (2005) is supposedly the last F-15C produced by the USA where is it's AESA radar aka AN/APG-63(V)2

not further upgrade but most F15s were upgraded to V1 in tandem with some getting V2

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V1 was some earlier

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The only things that can bring the F-15C at a halt would be the Eurofighter and the Rafale BUT i want the stuff on the eagle to perform at least as shown in the manuals. It is that simple. There is no need to get another plane just for a 9X an 120D and a newer radar. We can have the pre-fox3 F-15A, F-15C MSIP II and Strike eagle

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Typhoon uses standard mechanical PD radar until Tranche 3.

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Maneuverability vise and dogfight capability. And even with the radar that now the F-15 has I don’t expect gaijin to give the 63(V)2/3 the things that they should have. And by that i mean: modes, patterns and range and maybe power

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They even cant into 63V1, about what youre talking?)

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Nor should Gaijin give F-15C MSIP an AESA radar when there are more Tranche 3 equivalents USA can get.

As for range and power, F-15C’s current radar has that. However, weapons are going to be the bottleneck, and F-15C and Typhoon are both using AIM-9M and AIM-120s until the next jump.
Which will likely be AIM-9X and IRIS-T on future variants. Whether that’s Tranche 3 or Tranche 2 for Typhoon, and the next iteration of F-15 for USA.

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F-15C can get pretty much of things
Like a IRST, MAW(maybe), and mentioned already - 63V2 and V3

As better variants - F-15C still will be best F-15 as AA, changes might be with EX, which basicly is spamraamer. E have near to same capabilities as AA, but worser in turn rate(fatty boy)(actually not big difference, 15E have better engines). E is still very fun as A-G attacker, a lot of SDB, if we will get them ofc, but theres a lot of GBU, but trouble in that - a lot of them is JDAM, that currently not in game. Ah, yes, GBU-15 and AGM-130 might be funny

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V2 was in serive 3 months before V1

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Uh, maybe
As MSIP were apg70? I dont remember

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Not correct first AESA Typhoons were the one ones bougth by Kuwait and Qatar with the rest nations to get it in a few years

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APG-70 was for the F15E and some F15C were built with it

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Some sources states that one of points in MSIP 2 was APG70

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When

The new processing power made available with the use of the new APG-70 radar made it practical to make use of Non-Cooperative Target Recognition (NCTR) technology, which provides the ability to distinguish more reliably between friendly and hostile aircraft. Much of the NCTR technology is highly “black” and very few details are available, but it reportedly makes it possible to avoid a lot of “friendly fire” accidents, such as the one that resulted in the loss of the IranAir Airbus in July of 1988.

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Either way, Typhoon doesn’t have AESA for Tranche 1 and 2.

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APG-70 has air to ground cappilties thats why the F15E got it the only F15Cs that got where very few

APG-63 V1 and V2 were both 2000s

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The F-15C definitely does NOT need the AN/APG-63(V)2 or (V)3 at the moment.

In the future, when we get things like the F-2A, later Eurofighters, and Rafales, the F-15C absolutely should get one of its AESA radars though in my opinion.

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So
MSIP 2 was 1985
There was no 63V1 and 63V2
Only 63PSP and 70 was…

MSIP II is that portion of the program which handles the F-15C/D. The major part of MSIP II is to fit the APG-70 radar and the AIM-120 AMRAAM.

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The F-15C MSIP-II we have in game right now has JHMCS, which is from ~2006

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That source us wrong MSIP II was 2000s

F15s got rushed AMRAAM capabilities for desert shield

APG-70 was for the F15E for the air to ground

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