In the future, the F-15C we have right now (~2006) would also be capable of taking AIM-120C-7s and AIM-9Xs. If it does get those armaments, I would recommend giving it an AESA radar to keep it competitive with these vehicles.
We’ve already seen how bad an F-15 is when it’s undertiered (F-15A being 12.3), and I think eventually giving the F-15C the (V)2 or 3 would help keep it competitive with the Rafale, Eurofighter, F-2A, etc.
There’s no reason for this, nothing would limit Gaijin from giving the F-16C, F-2A, and F-15C their AESA radars all in the same patch. The same goes for vehicles like later versions of the Eurofighter and the Rafale.
Well you going to have to disprove 3 sources that say other wise. (Source 1, Source 2, Source 3)
But F-2 is the first jet in the world to have an AESA radar, not only that but also 18 F-15C were fitted with AESA radar the AN/APG-63(V)2
What I’m saying is when those vehicles get added (not now, but in the future) we should upgrade the F-15C. Nobody here is advocating for those vehicles to be added now or anytime soon (aside from the occasional fanatic).
Right now the AN/APG-63(V)2 and (V)3 are not needed in the slightest. In the future they may be required, and at least they are available as options.
I think only russia is going to be left out of any AESA radars (until 5th gen come) Or they gonna find a small country who fitted an AESA radar to their russian tech and put it in the russain tree or something stupid like that (If that is the case give the US the Su-27 because Mexico recently bought one)
Well, the only reason they aren’t giving the F-16C block 50 an AESA radar is only becuase it’s not a block 60-70 they most likely gonna that excuse but the F-15C MSIP II there’s absolutely no excuse
Those 18 specific F-15Cs are not in War Thunder at this time.
Those sources prove me correct.
“AESA refit”
Russia has AESA on Su-57, their AESA Rafale equivalent aircraft, they’ll be fine.
Russia doesn’t have a stealth aircraft beyond prototype stage currently though, so… by the time Gaijin gets to stealth they’ll be able to ascertain the estimated RCS of Russia’s stealth options.
@Blanchboi
There will be an F-15 with AESA added after MSIP II, need not worry.
if F-15JM is truly from 2019, wouldn’t that make it the most modern plane in game? with maybe the exclusion of Su-25SM3 because I have zero clue if/when it was fitted/test fired Kh-38s
I just personally think an F-15C with JHMCS (meaning it’s from ~2006, should get 9Xs, and should get at least 120C-7s) should not be kept lower in BR when it can simply get a radar upgrade and be competitive with other planes (obviously whenever those planes are added).
In my mind the F-15A should get AIM-120As and TWS (the PSP radar should get TWS as it had it IRL) and move up, while the F-15C gets its upgrades (when the F-15C gets its upgrades). This solves the issue of the F-15A being too low in BR and terrorizing 11.3 while also providing the F-15C its armament with proper counters (eg. the F-2A, Rafale, Eurofighter, etc.). It is for this reason that I would prefer not to see another F-15C variant.
(I am well aware that simply moving the F-15A up in BR solves the issue of it terrorizing 11.3, but what I am suggesting would put it so far away from 11.3 that there’s zero chance of it becoming an issue again. I’m a firm believer that the F-15 platform mostly should not face Gen 3 aircraft unless they are heavily upgraded like the F-4F ICE or the MiG-21 bison).
The F-15A can be a pre-fox 3 era jet BUT it can receive TWS for it’s radar and to model them properly and it can simply go to 12.7 as the others. The F-15C can go and receive more upgrades as the game goes on. We don’t need another F-15C that has the (V)3 instead of the (2) or the 120D instead of the 120C-7 or the 9X. These upgrades can all come the the F-15C making it a later year variant.
I believe Su-57 has terrible stealth compared to other 5th gens. Air intakes and the visible engine/airway fans from the front point of view support that fact. So I will quite disappoint if Gaijin made the Su-57 actually stealth. Like “Just as good as the others” Stealth
It doesn’t but I don’t prefer to settle for 2nd best. It’s somewhat fine as it is now, but there is problems with it’s radar, and a first step into AESA would be either with the F-15C or F-2. (I also just want it as a convince because I like seeing multiple targets displayed on my screen and where they are, and lock them up)
Future F-15s can get AIM-9Xs.
AIM-9X, R-73M, AAM-5B, IRIS-T, etc are too soon for the game, and shouldn’t be on existing or near-future airframes.
There are at least 2 AESA F-15s. One C, and at least the EX.
There’s no reason to nerf the F-15A and C in such a way.
@Zer01420
Su-57 isn’t a stealth aircraft. It’s a Russian Rafale, and it’s a gen 4.5 jet.
Gaijin knows it’s not stealth. Gaijin will add Mig-41 or another stealth prototype for Russia to compete against F-35.
I am not advocating for these things to be added now. Again when future vehicles get added and equivalent weapons get added the F-15C can receive those upgrades. There’s no need to add a whole separate variant when we’re simply changing the radar model.
Again, the F-15C and F-16C are both from ~2006 due to the fact that they have JHMCS. The whole point of JHMCS was to have integration with the AIM-9X. We don’t need the AIM-9X in game right now, but whenever it does get added there is zero reason for the F-16C and F-15C to not get them. Historically, they had AIM-9Xs before JHMCS was even added to them.
Furthermore, the F-15A getting Fox-3s and moving up accordingly would be more balanced than it currently is IMO. Either way, it should move up anyways and get its TWS regardless of it getting Fox-3s or not. I just think it would fit better if the F-15A got Fox-3s since that was the whole point of giving it the PSP upgrade.