Gaijin would never nerf the 2S38 and it has been confirmed several times by simply ignoring for many updates and nerfs.
Well, yes - they won’t nerf it because:
- It doesn’t have any discrepancies with real life (you’re welcome to make a bug report if you find any)
- It’s currently balanced at a BR of 10.0
- It’s classified as a light tank already and doesn’t have the advantages of SPAA spawn costs
Quite simple, really.
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Yea and I can see why they wouldn’t nerf it too, in my own opinion (so do not be mad at this) I think its stats are based off the people who play it, so when people buy it they just rush out like its a wonder weapon
Why doesn’t the OTOMATIC have unlimited APFSDS? Limiting the amount of APFSDS or APDS is a balancing decision Gaijin makes for SPAA, therefore if the 2S38 was correctly designated as an SPAA it would have a limited amount of APFSDS.
This seems completely unfounded.
Considering the most played premium in the game is the German Leopard 2A4 with a camo net.
At a similar BR to the 2S38 of 10.3. They’re both premium, except the 2A4 is played even more.
And the 2A4 not only has DOUBLE the K/D of the 2S38, but it also has basically the same K/D as the tech-tree copy.
For example -I personally bought the Chinese premium T-69IIG at 8.7 when I reached 8.7 in the tech tree playing regularly, to strengthen up my lineup. Many experienced players do this, I would reckon. I would also believe anyone experienced that is starting up a new tree is very likely to get a high rank premium.
Russia 10.0 is actually quite midling without the premiums, as well. I would say anyone wanting to play it would basically have to buy the premiums regardless of how experienced they are, just to have a nice varied experience.
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The OTOMATIC has a limited number of APFSDS shells because its APFSDS shells in real life are limited, as well. Because they’re larger than the HE-VT. The 2S38’s HE-VT and APFSDS shells are the same size, so it can bring as many as it wants.
I’m pretty sure this was explained within this thread, even. Literally a mere 40 posts up.
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Limiting APFSDS is not and has never been a balancing decision.
Your posts have only lies.
2S38 being SPAA wouldn’t change anything for APFSDS.
OTOMATIC is limited because it’s dual-feed, and APFSDS is longer thus gets its own feed ramp.
Edit:
Lvkv no limitation.
ZSU-57-2 no limit.
Etc.
Sadly those two are the only ones I have max ammo on. I’d show more otherwise.
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Umm… You weren’t supposed to use logic to debunk their arguments?
This is the “whining about the 2S38 because it hurts my feelings” thread?
So… You should fix your post. The 2S38 should be 12.7.
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So real
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Yea it is weird to see the Russian 10.0 line up, tbh I was just really weirded out about the Strela going up to 10.3, but maybe theres some other facts I need to learn about
Because, as said before, its APFSDS cartridges are of different dimensions than any other cartridge it carries.
Why can the BMP-3 and BMD-4 only carry a handful of missiles?
The same exact reason.
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It could fit more APFSDS shells in the front hull storage, and the difference in the length of the APFSDS and HE shells isn’t enough for it to be impossible.
Gepard (edit: don’t forget Ikv) getting limited APDS isn’t a thing I guess, and there’s no reason why Gaijin wouldn’t nerf a better version of APDS rounds.
That’s great, please refer to:
You also talk about the Gepard - but regardless of the Gepard being realistic or not (I’m not sure whether it is limited in real life), your argument about them limiting SPAA has already broken down.
The shells can be manually loaded into the APFSDS feed.
in which its not alone at that br. Swedish 10.0 sports the same multirole ability
You are also correct about the LVKV, I played both the 2S38 and the LVKV, they both play really wierdly the same
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However, in War Thunder the ammo pool is all 1 uniform entity.
In order to change that they’d need to overhaul how ammo is stored in the code, as well as model dual-feed systems.
Until that point, all they can do is limit it to the amount the feed ramp can hold.
OTOMATIC is not the only item that would see changes based on that.
Gepard has an entirely separate feed ramp for its APDS as the 35mm gun is dual feed, one is for APDS specifically.
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Also as a quick footnote, I will not be changing the name of this thread or the title of it due to showing my mistake and horrible take on the 2S38, now Im really interested in others data
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They do limit APDS (and since APFSDS are better, they would limit those too) for the Gepard, Marksman, ItPsV 90, SIDAM 25, etc.
How? What is so difficult about it? Just change the ammo storage from only HE-VT to general ammo storage, which is how most ammo racks work in game.