That’s not how any ammo rack works in War Thunder.
That’d also be an incorrect representation of OTOMATIC.
Even with the current representation, it is accurate for the current limits.
I gave you the solution: Overhauling how ammo is stored in code.
That is the sole solution.
And no, they don’t limit AP ammunition on vehicles. Real-life manufacturers do and Gaijin adopts those real-life manufacturer information.
Complaining that Gaijin makes vehicles accurate is silly.
Does it have to be so complicated?
If you want an idea for nerf, here it is:
Simply nerf the fire rate.
Now, before ya’ll start going “uhh that’d be unrealistic” let me remind you that reload times are one of Gaijin’s primary balancing factors and don’t have to be historical. In fact they rarely are.
Case in point HSTV-L’s current reload of 1.5s when in reality it was 1s. When users raise this issue, they are told “not a bug, it’s a balancing factor”.
So why not apply the same logic to the 2S38.
That and the magical autoloader which can swap between HE-VT and APFSDS instantaneously are what make this thing completely absurd.
The Lvkv also has numerous advantages and currently has better statistics than the 2S38.
The 2S38’s advantages over the Lvkv are:
Then, the main problem with the 2S38’s other advantages are that they are antithetical. It has:
A lot of its advantages are heavily offset by its poor design, which is a common theme in Russian vehicles.
The Lvkv9040C/Strf 9040C, however, has:
The Swedish 10.0 IFVs have EXTREMELY strong aspects you can take advantage of, while the 2S38’s design somewhat fights against itself. (This is just Russians making cost-savings by creating bodykits of old vehicles again)
Especially the survivability on them. Not to mention the 9040 BILL with the best (and unnerfed) top-down missile in the game. After the Spike buff, the Italian ~10.0 IFVs are also all extremely mobile, extremely dangerous, and fairly trolly from my experience fighting them.
You can see all this just by looking at the stats of all these vehicles.
I personally don’t think any of these vehicles should be going up, either. I think they’re just fine at 10.0. I just hate that people seem to whine about the 2S38 due to sheer ignorance.
Like this post here:
Yeah? That’s literally EVERY AUTOCANNON IN THE GAME. My PGZ09 switches (35mm Gepard gun) switches between APDS and APHE instantly, too. Like, seriously?
eh its the game i guess but its only feeded by 1 autoloading mechanism
How? I don’t see only HE, only AP, only APCR, etc. ammo racks in game, they are generalized for most vehicles.
It’s not, the difference in length of the APFSDS and HE shells is barely anything, and the ammo is put into the feeds by a manual loader - none of that requires only 12 APFSDS.
There is a difference, or should be a difference, between the real-life ammo allocation and the War Thunder ammo allocation. The Gepards weren’t meant to be meeting tanks face-to-face constantly, but in War Thunder they do. I don’t see a reason why Gepards couldn’t just have put APDS belts in the main ammo storage.
The APFSDS changes for the OTOMATIC are accurate, there’s no evidence that the tolerances on the front hull storage are so tight that the APFSDS rounds couldn’t fit.
Here’s the thing, nerfing the fire rate of 2S38 is increasing it, which coincidentally makes it more annoying but less effective.
Lowering the 2S38 reload speed would make it more effective due to its relatively low first stage supply.
@SpeclistMain
Secondary ammo storage is not modeled in War Thunder at this time.
The “first stage” is purely a classification that reduces the reload time and nothing else.
The Gepard also has nothing to do with balance…? If you have an issue with low AP reserves, take it up with the manufacturer that gave it those reserves
Its interesting to see that the Russian tanks get a lot of attention, instead of some of the nato tanks that have some OP tendencies such as the Leopard 2A7+, STRV 122B+ (which I dont like just because the weight of the tank does not really make much sense), and as you said some of the Sweedish light vehicles
Even Japan became pretty cancer since the Fuji and new AA, yet, nobody talks about it.
Under every youtube video i only see people cry about russia, it’s fascinating.
type 90’s arent hard to kill; they’ve always been annoying to face frontally because of the 4-second autoloader but their low number of crew members combined with low armor makes them pretty squishy and also need very good situational awareness to use it in a way that you dont pass an enemy right beside you, i guess its mostly the amount of spamming of the type 90 fuji and the type 81 its annoying if the person using it knows how to look around but low-flying helicopters and planes too far away are their doom, specially in bad weather conditions
You’re welcome to quote me writing paragraphs upon paragraphs and THEN adding that the person I’m talking to is insane because they completely ignore what I’ve written and make strawmen of me for an hour (which is what you just did), which breaks my patience.
Scalding. I wonder what was going through your empty braincase when you wrote that.
They should give it the SPAA designation and reduce the amount of APFSDS it can carry kind of like when they reduced the APFSDS on that one Italian SPAA.
Nvm I read through everyone’s replies
Ye it ends with f117 being shot down by Neva
You are really fishing with this one