That was different though. The gave it historical missiles and moved it up to the appropriate BR.
They’ve never gone “this aircraft is underperforming at top tier, therefore we are giving it X missile so it has an advantage over the other top tier aircraft”
Because its not the full picture
MBDA publically states 3+ which is where that figure comes from
But Flame has found docs regarding the ASRAAMs aerodynamic heating being extremely high and the only way a missile can reach those kinds of temps of aerodynamic heating based upon various research papers he found, was if it was traveling at like Mach 5+
MBDA is notorious for conservative public figures. Like Meteor is quite often understated loads. Like sometimes stating Meteor has an LSZ of 60km, but in other places has stated 100+km
So you think gaijin will accept reports according to MBDA or him? Also could you provide those doc to me as well?
It’s not done often but it has been done before by Gaijin, I’m 99% certain of it. For example, If I remember right, the MiG-29 started its life with the R-27R, and very quickly received the R-27ER because it was struggling too much.
donst really matter tho since the devs use their own calculations based on motor size and estimated fuel to determine thrust. so i doubt its ever gonna be anywhere near mc 5 in warthunder
Flame and Gunjob (Senior tech mod) are confident it can be reported.
You’ll have to ask him for the specific docs
Iirc, it was going to get R73 and R-27Rs, it was decided on the dev server that R-73s were too strong, so they swapped to R-60M and R-27ER. Which was maybe worse.
Oh yeah, right, that must be it. Though, I’m pretty sure it was released with the R-27R only, and like 1-2 weeks later received the ER because the stats weren’t satisfying. It’s been so long I could be wrong but yeah.
Anyway, the F-18E could have done with a missile glow-up. It’s an absolute disgrace and joke what they did to it.
EDIT: Check that, found the devblog again. No mention of ER.
Something feel off about that g pull stated by the guy of AIM 9X. G pull of AIM 9X is still classified and is believed to be around 80-60G
I doubt its that high. Probably more like 50.
It is afterall just Aim-9M with TVC slapped on
There is only so much a bodged missile is going to be able to do without major redesigns
Why do you think so?
Combo of what it is set to on the CLAW and a few secondary sources ive seen online. The IRIS-T is 60G+ and is a purpose built missile, designed for extremely high G off the rails. Im doubting the Aim-9X, an Aim-9M with a new a TVC nozzle and a new seeker would suddenly jump from 35G to 80G
But there are videos of it pulling high G and i said it is believed to be around 80G to 60g and not 80G
Videos are highly subjective though and it could be doing 40G for all you know
I would try to find some more source about it then (knowing i am gonna fail but worth a shot)
calling the 9x and aim9m with TVC is like calling the aim120 and aim7 with ARH, the missiles have more differences than things in common
Such as?
The US literally pulled out of the ASRAAM programm because they wanted to use up 30k Aim-9Ms.
They quite literally are Aim-9Ms with swapped seeker heads and a TVC nozzle. The warhead and motor i beleive are 100% identical
The baseline -9X literally uses the AIM-9M’s Mk. 36 Motor with an added TVC control section. The Block 3 (canceled) and “Block II Plus” (AIM-9X-3), revises the propellant.
The entire point of the -9X program is to iteratively replace components as the spiral development programs reach maturity and funds are made available to Ship of Theseus the existing inventory, in order to minimize risk. Allowing for the existing infrastructure to be reused where possible to the maximum extent possible. in order to save money.
If they wanted performance the AIM-132 or earlier AIM-95 was the way to go.
The question these days is what exactly is supposed to eventually replace the Sidewinder.
different Length different weight, entirely new fin and body design
@ OP,
It’s indeed a skill issue.
But you’re also surrounded by behemoths in the Su-30SM2, AESA-equipped Eurofighters, Rafales and to a lesser extent, J-10C and/or JAS39E.
So really… unless gaijin drops either the F-15EX or F-22 in the next 2 months (doubtful, btw) and we revisit this conversation again in some form or another, I think it’s time to take a broader look at the overall US player base…