You’ve got the wrong topic, you need to go to “The Kh-38MT may not actually exist”
What are you talking about? We’re talking about rockets and planes here.
Only if AGM65s were fixed. AGM-65 carriers would be the easiest to deal with at the toptier.
Imagine that only using SPAA can easily deal with CAS at the toptier is the most destructive move; whatever Pantsir or HQ17 will easily break the balance that other nations may don’t have kinds of SPAA,
Last time BR changed for SPAA, make lowtier Helis balance now doesn’t exist.
Next time is waiting GBU53 or AGM-84 to make sure most of NATO CAS at the same level. Same with China, still waiting for F&F missiles on the heli and IR A2G
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Actually, even if delete KH38, there are still some options for Russia to choose; the main issue is when will other nations have such kind of same thing?
Hey just to note 12.7 would be J11A/Mirage 5Ei. 2 of the weakest ARB any way, nvm J11A has no guided ordinance with horrible RWR, and Mirage 5Ei, well no bombs at all.
What-
bombs? in arb? on a mirage with micas?
This thread is about GRB, so why would jets with no ground ordinance, and worse AA capability fall into the same BR as F15E.
didnt see grb tag when I posted
lol
Make the f15E 13.0! please
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Not until it gets better ammunition
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I forget American mains are bad at the game, that they have to be constantly under-BR’d and nerf other vehicles to compensate for their lack of skill.
The Grippens sits at 12.7, and can only carry either four AIM 120s/RB-99/R-Darters or four AGMs (not at the same time). So the Grippen has to give up their defence to attack ground troops OR be limited to a max four BVR eliminations.
The J-10 sits at a similar BR, with a max of six PL-12s, but has to give up four of their PL-12s (or all of their PL-12s of they only unlocked the GB250s and GB500s).
Meanwhile the F-15 can carry double the payload of the Grippen, and double the AIM-120s of the Grippen. So how is that balanced?
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Fp
The f15e is a bus and very ez to take down
You can go into bloody orbit and smack a lad with GBU-39s (if a sitting SPAA that’s just waiting for a blink on the radar) or use the AGMs (they have range).
I use the F-15I for hide and seek, I know a wee bit about it.
No u cant
Planes and pantsirs will shoot u down easily
Gbu 39 is not worth the space and the time to kill only one pantsir (and that is only if he dumb and dont move or intercept them)and agm65 are trash with mid seeker and are so slow it takes 30 sec to fly 10km and alot can happen in 30 sec to the target if its not just get intercepted with 0 skill
By any means f15 is not on par with su30/34 on cas role
When it will get kh38 eqivlant u could start talking
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The F-15E is a flying iron, don’t confuse it with the F-15C. The F-15E is not capable of maneuverable combat, and the Grippin is a very maneuverable aircraft, in addition to the 120 it also has the AIM-9M.
More so with big payload its a brick
And at least u get the pay load, not like jets at 12.7that doesn’t even get bombs.
And as for the manoeuvrability, it is not bad. Sure, not as good as some other jets, but plenty against Su34.
And same with the state of all the others. J10 has no FnF weapon, and therefore is a BR lower. A reminder J11A and Mirage 5EI two planes worse than F15E at every single metric, sit at 12.7.