Where’d they say that?
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Clearly should be the same BR as the SK80 for having MACLOS
Wait, you want to say that weapons aviable to any vehicle dont matter when considering its BR or capability?
In this thread: People complain about a vehicle being rated by its FM alone but not its weapons, and another group complains about comparing weapons without considering FM.
Both sides too stubborn to admit all judgement is based on a vehicles overall characteristics as a sum of all its parts?
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Not F15E, but only AGM65s, it is 100% overvalued, it is much worse than AASM or KH38, and this is the reason why F15E could be able to lower BR when compared to SU30SM or SU34.
think about SU25SM3 and Mirage 2000 RMV, don’t you think they should be lower BR at GRB as well, they don’t even have ability to BVR
Only if new SPAA is added to deal with AGM-65 carriers.
Hopefully China gets the 18km version of their SPAA next major for that exact situation, finally balancing AGM-65 carriers and potentially Hammer and Kh-38MT carriers at the same time.
All that’ll be left will be the long-range laser munitions.
The Su-25 SMT has these fictitious KH-38MT missiles, that’s why it’s such an IR. But I agree it’s a bit high.
You really like to joke here.
@Demokrat4 coming in to defend his precious Kh-38MTs, Hammers, and AGM-65Ds cause I called them OP.
He’ll tell us how he fragged maneuvering Kh-38MT and AGM-65D carriers from 18km using an ADATS. ;)
CAS is OP no matter how many times you call everyone names.
Conclusion, ADATS needs to be nerfed!!
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For your next trick you should compare the electric Mini Morris to a freight truck.
You’ve got the wrong topic, you need to go to “The Kh-38MT may not actually exist”
What are you talking about? We’re talking about rockets and planes here.
Only if AGM65s were fixed. AGM-65 carriers would be the easiest to deal with at the toptier.
Imagine that only using SPAA can easily deal with CAS at the toptier is the most destructive move; whatever Pantsir or HQ17 will easily break the balance that other nations may don’t have kinds of SPAA,
Last time BR changed for SPAA, make lowtier Helis balance now doesn’t exist.
Next time is waiting GBU53 or AGM-84 to make sure most of NATO CAS at the same level. Same with China, still waiting for F&F missiles on the heli and IR A2G
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Actually, even if delete KH38, there are still some options for Russia to choose; the main issue is when will other nations have such kind of same thing?
Hey just to note 12.7 would be J11A/Mirage 5Ei. 2 of the weakest ARB any way, nvm J11A has no guided ordinance with horrible RWR, and Mirage 5Ei, well no bombs at all.
What-
bombs? in arb? on a mirage with micas?
This thread is about GRB, so why would jets with no ground ordinance, and worse AA capability fall into the same BR as F15E.
didnt see grb tag when I posted