I’ve gotta say, the bomber changes have been awesome. I know a lot of air mains, especially fighter pilots, are complaining that bombers are too beefy now, but come on man. Historically, many of these aircraft were incredibly tough and were built to take punishment. You shouldn’t be able to casually rip a heavy bomber apart in one quick pass with whatever fighter happens to be nearby; there’s a reason dedicated interceptors and heavy armament existed. For once, flying a bomber actually feels like you have a chance to stay in the fight instead of instantly becoming somebody’s free RP piñata. THANK YOU GAIJIN!!! Please don’t revert these changes. Let the bomber guys have some fun for once!
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The pendulum swung too far in the opposite direction, though. It should be adjusted, and all aircraft should also have damage models remade in the same standard.
Having a spongy damage model just because the aircraft is labeled “bomber” is retarded. You can have similarly stuctured and sized attackers/light bombers but the bombers are damage sponges while the “not bombers” are still very fragile.
Or revert everything back and approach it by adjusting munition damage and how it interacts with aircraft components/surfaces
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I agree with OP, the bombers have suffered for too long, a decade of 7.7s bringing them down without a hitch, and now, less than a week into the update, you fighter mains are crying that you guys can’t take down the big bad bombers. I don’t feel bad for them.
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Everything reduces to “but the fighter mains” when previously strong bomber damage model was what brought about the 1 hit kill bomber for the last decade:
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enjoy it while it lasts, next update it’s almost definitely going to be nerfed, and no, it’s not realistic.
rn the best anti bomber weapons are .50cals for starting fires, while 30, 45, and 50 millimeter cannons just get soaked up like a sponge lmao
you can literally just dump twin 45mm he rounds from the tis ma and just get fires lol
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See this post and tell me if you think that historically they were built to take that kind of punishment.
No need to get emotional, no one is crying, you dont need to either.
Uh oh, assumptions and generalizing a whole group of people, without factual proof of people’s inability to take them down.
I can take them down easily.
But the game is balanced for the average player.
And i personally think for that balancing they are unbalanced and far too durable to be considered realistic
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Holy shit, trukes in the big 26
What does that even mean?
Truth + nuke = Truke
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There’s actually a reason to bring interceptors and heavier strike aircraft like the A-26 now. It’s awesome.
And for those who say “too OP,” prove they can’t do this, because both Gaijin and I have provided plenty of proof in the bomber discussion showing these aircraft are this strong.
That’s besides the fact I have been bomber hunting for days now, and I’ve only died 2 times to them because I boom and zoom their gunners, props, and cockpits.
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Show me the proof of a B-17s wing root being this strong. You might have to dig pretty deep to find it, but don’t worry, i have time.
Why do all that extra work when just the cockpit is enough?
WW2: B-17 Flying Fortress Takes Fire From a Bf 110 | 4k, 60fps, Colorized, Sound Design, AI Enhanced
Done. Also, you have no idea how to properly engage a bomber.
You aren’t always facing the cockpit.
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Bombers are not as bad as everyone is saying, it’s just most people are slow to adapt. Personally I think the bombers damage model is pretty accurate to irl, and I wish more people pushed for realism in this game (people think you have to sacrifice fun for realism, that’s blatantly not true), but not all people are made equal. The thing that gaijin failed at is giving all aircraft the same treatment. Wings or tails just don’t break off, and that goes for fighters and interceptors. People are going to read this and go “well fighters are going to become like bombers.” No, fighters components are closer together and are actually susceptible to HE like ammunition unlike bombers where it’s a lot of empty space and the import components were at the front( bring ap-i or aphe, it will change your life.). I’m sick right now, so don’t judge my writing too hard.
Edit: also not only tactics are important, but also choosing a plane ment to hunt bombers. Y’alls bf 109s ain’t gonna cut it
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For the B-17, the wing comes off a few shells early for what was historically documented.
If you want to kill them quickly and easily with little effort, use some rockets. They are easy to hit.
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You showed a video where the B-17 takes only a fraction of the hits compared to the video i posted. And the hits are scattered around the plane instead of concentrated on a single area.
Plus the video isn’t original, it’s ai enhanced.
Fyi. that film was used in training by LW to show how to take down said planes. So it was destroyed.
You dont need to be, or you can slightly maneuver to be in a position to do so.
See the video i posted, hardly seems realistic don’t you think?
How many rounds do you reckon i hit into the wing root area in that video? Still didn’t come off.
Well whoever is flying sure took their sweet time.
The bomber could have been taken down faster and easier if they aimed for the engines better, also Im curious of what belts they took
Please note how you’re always aiming at the same engine and center fuselage up until the last strafe. You’re embarrassing yourself. Please learn to spread your damage.
Luftwaffe gun camera of attacks on B-17s
And so was the B-17 you engaged. The issue you have is that you don’t know how to spread your bullets to do damage. You expect to shoot the same empty mass endlessly and get a wing chop when that rarely happens IRL. The redundant metal exists for a reason.
Learn to aim first. Bombers should never be a point-and-click.
This is how you actually take down a bomber safely. You spread your damage and don’t make yourself an easy target for their gunners. Come in from the sides and front, like the Japanese and Germans. If you’re in a lightly armed fighter aircraft, avoid those engagements when possible. You aren’t primarily designed to do it, and obviously won’t be good at it. As the Germans, stick to their Interceptors and high-altitude aircraft like the Fw 190 and Bf 110 series.
Now imagine if you’d started your run with your last action instead of everything else in that video. You could have ended him in an instant.
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