I found the worst stock grind in the entire game KFIR C7

imgaian you only have 36 flares and 2x shafir2 and play against that
You will face su27, mig29, f16, f14, f15, and you will have 2x shafir 2 to counter attack
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Someone answer me why the hell is this plane 12.0 with such bad initial missiles?
This plane should have at least 2 Python 3 to start the grind, it’s impossible to play with that

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I skipped over this thing initially, but yesterday I was looking for an 11.3 (Its GRB Battle rating) to pair along with my Merk Mk3’s, and I thought about spading it…

Then I looked at what it gets stock… at 12.0… And just decided to use Kurnass2k instead lol.

You’re absolutely right. 2x Shafir is absolutely horrific, but the pain doesn’t end there, because you’ve got to go through 9D and then 9G’s (Both awful at 12.0) until you finally get the Pythons in rank IV…

102,600RP to reach the first usable missile for its battle rating. Easily got to be the worst stock grind of any plane.

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This jet should be 11.7, but this change didn’t happen at all.

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The only way to play it really is to load it with bombs and hope your Israel hating allies don’t shoot you down before you get to a bomb target.

The grind of the F4J is even worse, at the least the Kfir can dogfight. The F4J is a boat and doesn’t even get wingtip slats like the F4S.

I don’t fly but is it worse than ground HEATFS as starting ammunition at 11.3?

Granted i’ve not played it, But i have also heard the C7 is extremely prone to wing snaps (Which is Bizarre considering the Kfir Canard never snaps its wings)

Much worse because you can make Heatfs work in a flank, you can do the same for a bad missle that easily gets 1 flared

The ground equivalent of this would be like having stock HEAT, and there being more HEAT in ranks I, II and III, and not getting APFSDS until rank IV lol.

why are most of israel’s planes is over BR?
why is kunnas2k 12.3 and why kfir is 12.0 with such a rotten stock grind, the plane has nothing, it doesn’t even have radar.
I’ve never felt so frustrated with this game like I’m feeling with Kfir, I want to uninstall the game

honestly id argue that the ah6m stock grind is worse, it takes 130,000 rp to get hellfires on that, and until you do your only guided weapon is APKWS which is pretty much useless

That does sound pretty awful. The worst stock grind I’ve done was the Hunter F.58 without stock flares. Imagine 8.7 performance at 9.7, but you’re constantly uptiered to 10.7. Facing A-10s and F5Cs wasn’t fun.

I ever spading this way back before IRCCM was even a thing, I can only imagine how brutal the stock grind for it is now…

OMG FINALLY SOMEONE ELSE AGREE’S, i only was able to spade this thing cause of the wing rip buffs, it was even worse cause you’d pull slightly too hard and boom there go your wings. having to research 3 different missiles before being able to research pythons is horrific.

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