The best missile AIO can get is ER.
Yeah than thats what we need but its Gajijn i dont really think they’ll do it
That can be solved via SPYDER-MR/LR systems then, which would be entirely separate vehicles and systems ofc, but it would provide the ranges you desire (60-80km ranges)


If you’re talking about the SPYDER AiO exclusively, the best it can get is the I-Derby ER as that’s the best missile it’s compatible with. It has the smaller launchers, it’s not capable of the larger booster capable ones.
I dont think we have any way of knowing it as of now.
Dunno, while it is not impossible, i doubt it.
IF they would not want to model dual pulse, we would be stuck to MR.
Also i forgot, do you know if P5 MR range was 40 or 50 km?
But didn’t they say they had plans for the Spyder aio? and MR/LR would be an amazing thing for Isreal
Last I checked the P5 MR is 40km
Thanks
Wouldn’t even be mad if it was 30km all Gajijn needs to do is buff is SPYDER or add a new SPYDER variant
Well plans for the AiO wouldn’t include any MR style addition, it would mean a new system entirely and only plans for the SPYDER series in general. The CM response stated plans were intended for the AiO, if I had to guess it means I-Derby ER addition following dual pulse missiles in the future. MR/LR would likely come some time after that if I had to guess, but who knows maybe we’ll get a MR before then.
Thanks, does the I-Derby ER also use a smokeless motor? i dont think its needed if it were added
Should be, just like the other Derby missiles. The Python and Derby missiles should be all smokeless, along with many other ARH missiles ingame. Gaijin has held of on giving any smokeless motors for now for balance reasons it seems (cough some nations don’t use them and they Al’s want IR missiles and ARH missiles to be more distinguishable)
I just hope we’ll get a buff on the Spyder nothing else, and im not gonna grind another tech tree for a new spaa so lets just hope they do what the community wants, thank you both.
That looks similar to other launches of the Python 4/5 series I’ve seen, an it doesn’t look that dense in terms of particles produced compared to other missile launch footage. Seems kinda similar to a “reduced smoke motor” to me, or at least the ones we have ingame on some missiles at the moment. The only difference I would say is that they dissipate faster ingame than in that video, which is actually a variable gaijin can set for smoke trails iirc according to datamines.
Like the IRIS-T SLM?
I’ve never used it myself nor seen one firing ingame from close so I couldn’t tell ya
Yeah, the smoke is thinner compared to for exame OSA, but it is still quite visible.
But it is much more visible compared to for example P5
I mean the native smoke produced by the motor.
I mean in war thunder its kinda not accurate brcause the smokE COMPLETELY dissapears after 3 seconds
In case of I-Derby ER ver got bigger motor section because in these ver non-contact fuze integrated to ARH searcher
