my god. context. Galway said “Never saw them at 11.0 - 11.7” and you said “its because they are in 10.7”, like of course it’s rare at 11.0 - 11.7, it’s in the uptier territory and War Thunder doctrine clearly says “there is only uptier”. of course that MiG-23 ML and bis LAZUR never sees J-7D, they’re too busy getting fucked by F-18C-25
I didnt say this
its not rare at those BRs, its more common than if you were getting 10.7 only games… because there is no limit to how many 10.7s can be in a 11.0, 11.3, or 11.7 max game
what is the point of your rambling? my point is the j7d should be 11.0
It is better than mig21 bis and that plane is 11.0
1 PL missile = 2-3 r60m in terms of game performance
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if i have to choose between 6 short range all aspect 30g or 4 medium range rear aspect 30g ill take the first one. both are similarly susceptible to flare in the same rate. what’s the point choosing rear aspect?
Longer range and better flare resistance.
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your engagement range is always in 1-3 km btw
And an R-60M can’t hit targets more than 2km out, while the Pl-5B can hit targets up to 5km away depending on the speed.
The short range of the R-60M is why I always take 2 R-13s instead of 2 R-60Ms.
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But for IR missile R-60M def lose out , idk why my man gotta defend it. Especially when you taken in that IR missile at this br would want to be launched at clueless enemy for them to work best and unlike R-60m can easily be flare , the PL can actually hit it target with it better flare resistance. What the point of all aspect when the missile itself is shorter range and can be flared by a normal human rage
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Because R-60Ms can fire at whatever angle, while the Magics can only be shot from behind. I’d rather have the R-60Ms, with the radar missiles over four Magics that I can only use in a very niche situation.
pl5bs are much better than r60ms
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the magics are strong, but theyre not what you use on the j7d, pl5bs are better.
all aspect is of dubious usefull ness on r60ms
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I’m tired of using rear aspect. R-73 on J-11 was a huge improvement because I can finally shoot someone from side aspect
r-73 and r60m are very different missiles. r73 is very strong in front aspect cause tvc allows you to make very sneaky shots. r60m in front aspect is pretty terrible. side aspect is usable but side aspect is perfectly achievable with most rear aspect missiles
Side is a bet. and by side I mean 30 degree from the enemy rear which they definitely can see.
Yeah but R-73 is like above 13.0 , we are talking about 9.7~11.7 , idk why my man bringing it in but sure. Just because it rear doesn’t mean it other aspect are ignored , R60M is a lackluster All aspect missile. The only thing it have better over the PL is the all aspect , the rest is cringe and mid.
The R-60M allows more ability to eliminate players. With the PLs, you are forced to go behind and hope the guy is blind or has no countermeasures. With the R-60Ms, you can fire a missile close range to their face in a head on, you can fire from the side, you can even flank from behind. That’s the difference.
So literally any IR missile ever ?
Yeah this will simply go back to the fact that R60M are extremely flare hungry. Assuming all fighter we meet , just to be fair, to have CM, meaning R60M will do little to nothing but then again R60MK can do head on , and PL can’t , I will give you that but in other aspect PL is better.
I mean PL can ignore flare , while R60M will most likely not. Cause if the enemy not flaring then idk what we are comparing here
It just that IR missile down in the 11.7~9.7 require stealth to be at most useful , in that case any missile is good. But for R60M , a single flare is all it take for the enemy to defeat the missile. While literally any other missile can to a certain extend ignore flare
I guess I have better luck than most, but is there really a difference between Ms and MKs?
Sorry , bad habit , I have been playing the german version so I keep messing up the name , but there no different between the Ms and MKs, the MK simply the designation for export version