Hungarian Ground Forces

There is a 1944 photograph of a Turan 2 with the whole front of the tank fully covered with track armor. That would make a difference.

And the Zrínyi I should be called Zrínyi I Sorozatvető as it has an experimental weaponry mounted on it that -to the best of my knowledge- IRL was NEVER mounted, only intended.
So it is incorrect in the game.

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Yes, I mentioned that solution here:

That solution is a bit of a ‘general solution’ that can also be used for the Toldi IIA. The people with the battle pass premiums may not be particularly happy with it. When I said there is no unique solution specifically for the Turan II, I meant there is no such solution comparable to my ideas for the Toldi IIA (to turn it into the Toldi IIAK) or the Zrinyi I (make separate versions with/without the rocket launchers).

Speaking of notable Hungarian tank aces, there was Ervin Tarczay. Not sure if he commanded a Turan II (although there is a good chance he did at some point), but he was given command of the few Tigers Hungary had and also maybe the Panthers. He is possibly the best and most famous Hungarian tank ace.

Exactly. It would be super low effort while still being substantial and making a lot of players happy. I thought Gaijin loves the easy route.

Well yes, I considered that too, but I think my original version is the better idea because:

  • The Toldi IIA is researchable (as it should be)
  • The Toldi IIAK is the rare hidden battle pass premium (where it makes more sense)
  • The Toldi III can be researchable, which does make sense as 12 were built, and this can have the add-on armour as a modification, so everyone still has access to this and the Toldi IIA, thus nothing is really locked behind the battle pass.

While this does involve slightly changing the battle pass premium, it is positive changes only, and still keeps the vehicle unique, so the battle pass people should still be happy with it.

This is probably the best/most unique idea for the Turan II that I have seen yet, I was hoping for something like this when I said the battle pass version can have some differences such as armour.

Yes exactly, I basically meant that any Zrínyi I with the rockets should be called Zrínyi I Sorozatvető. On that note, a ton of names of Hungarian tanks and guns are not written correctly (e.g. Turan → Turán | Zrinyi → Zrínyi | Mavag → MÁVAG | 34/40M → Gebauer 1934/40M).

Well, it is shown on photo that it was mounted experimentally, not sure whether they approved or rejected the idea.
r/TankPorn - Hungarian Zrínyi test vehicle H-801, equipped rocket launchers and (probably) long 75mm gun. Spring, 1944.

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If i remember correctly the rocket launchers were mounted on a Zrínyi II with the main gun demounted

Well I don’t know for sure either, but people say that image is of a Zrinyi I. Also, from what I read it is apparently vehicle H-801 and the rockets may have been mounted before the 75 mm main gun itself, which could explain why you remember it as a Zrinyi II without the main gun, as they could have taken a Zrinyi II hull, taken out the 105 mm howitzer, mounted some rockets to it for testing, then mounted the 75 mm gun when it was ready, thus creating the first Zrinyi I. The rockets were probably dismounted by the time the pictures were taken of the Zrinyi I. This could be the explanation.

Maybe just add a whole new (Hungarian) tech-tree to Italy?

What do you mean? Add a completely reworked Hungarian subtree to Italy?

Do you by any chance know what this tank’s number was, or what unit it served with, or maybe who commanded it, so that we can give it a name?

unfortunately no.

Couldn’t we call it Turan II late or Turan II (1944) or something like that?

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If you want, I can try to help you. I don’t know a lot of hungarian tanks, but I can still try.

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I have a suspicion that it might be from a Soviet newsreel …because the google image search leads back to a Russian website and an early 1945 battle report with a broken yt video.
But thats all. i wouldn’t waste my time with it.

Its good enough for Gaijin to add an add-on armor modification to the possible tech tree variant.

Turan II (1944) could work. But it would still seem a bit strange that a 1944 ‘version’ of a 1941 tank is literally to just put some tracks on the front, but oh well. Something more specific would work a bit better, especially if it could have a unique skin, but if there isn’t enough info on this particular tank, then that might be the best we can do. @atta26hu, do you know anything about this particular tank, since you included it in your suggestion?

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What do you mean by this?

Gaijin will add it to russian tt.

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it proves the existence of the track armor being used to such a degree. This can make a tech tree version different enough by making the frontal track armor a researchable modification for it.
It doesn’t have to be called Turan II 1944…They could also rename the BP Turan II, as the Royal Hungarian 2nd Honvéd Armored Division had Turan 75’s, aka Turan II’s . Give it appropriate division markings and done.

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Sadly I dont know the number of the tank.

What I know however is that there is actually a short but cool/interesting footage on it and that maybe a su-76 shot it.

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Feel like this suggestion should be closed given that Hungary was already implemented.

Nup you are wrong, this has been answered at some point already, because this is a suggestion for a stand alone hungary it does lot fall under the resolved rule ans stays open for discussion

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Ok…

Nice find! It could be possible to track down what unit this tank could have served with if we know anything about the footage, like the date and location, although this is probably not worth the time. But at least it isn’t just on an isolated photo.