Only if a shell uses an apfsds long preset, which might not be the case for lower caliber darts and autocannons.
It literally says it has 1.06 K/D for December, what are you looking at ?
If you want to move a vehicle with that stats down by a step or two, what would you do with others that have even worse stats ?
The Mavericks had a range of 10 km, and were easily shot down by the Shilka, just like the A-10As themselves. The A-10A wasn’t OP.
The Russians had an excellent X-29, which was better than the Mavrik and is still better to this day.
The ONLY thing you need to ask is how it compares to the BMPT…not the '72.
How can Shilka easily counter A-10A ?
Kh-29s have it’s pros and cons when compared to Mavericks.
Bruh.
The feeling I get is that the HSTV-L is one of those vehicles where it’s BR doesn’t really matter.
It’ll out-maneuver anything, out-reload anything, out-accelerate anything, it’ll be vulnerable to anything, etc. regardless of whether it sits at 12.7 or 10.3.
It’s a vehicle with only two drawbacks: Post-penetration damage and penetration.
The lack of penetration isn’t felt that much considering you can just aim for weakspots and you’re usually firing at the sides anyways.
That just leaves the post-pen damage, if this were buffed to be equal to M774 the HSTV-L would instantly be the #1 tank in War Thunder.
I think they should correct the penetration and improve the consistency of spalling, but not quite on-par with main gun APFSDS, then move it to 12.7.
There are two rounds they tested with HSTVL as well.
The one we have in-game was the primary test round for years.
Then they did a limited test run of a higher powder charge before writing off the barrel, which has that alleged M774 performance.
I don’t remember the barrel wear conclusions though.
Either way, if we got the limited test run… easily 12.7.
Having 400mm penning APFSDS being fired so quickly would be insane.
It’d be as if you turned the French VBCI into a 2S38 and then increased the 2S38’s mobility even more.
Thats called balance, do you expect to have a missile with an advantage in every way imaginable, well i guess you dont have to the kh38 is already in game.
Nope, should he 10.7, very annoying to fight
Just click on it.
Not really.
Even if it had 600mm of penetration it would still be suffering from poor post-pen damage output.
It’s the lack of damage that can get you killed, not the lack of penetration.
How?!
You can one-shot it by aiming nearly anywhere, you’re significantly more mobile than it and it has trouble penetrating the vast majority of your frontal area (M1 KVT).
2S38’s should be food for the M1’s.
That’s not how that works.
HSTV-L’s APFSDS spalls poorly because of it’s type classification in the game code, not because it’s penetration is low.
My mistake, I completely forgot HSTV-L round falls into that preset. A bit odd if you ask me.
Yeah but it can just point n click spamming shells, and it has a massive auto loader capacity
Okay?
Doesn’t change the fact that you’re massively more mobile than it, you can penetrate it FAR more easily than he can penetrate you, and you’ve got massively better survivability than the 2S38 does.
The only way a 2S38 should kill you is if you didn’t even spot it in the first place, but then practically any tank will be lethal.
Again, 2S38’s are food for the M1’s and they don’t deserve to be at the same BR as a M1 or Leo 2A4.
I thing you maybe seriously overestimating the Shilks, their radar has an extremely slow scan rate and they are really only effective out to ~1km, maybe a bit more on something big and slow.
not if it flies into the battle field, but if it sits back and shoots mavericks from 7km not even stinger SPAAs can shoot it, but I was referring more to things like F-16s and Bombcats. that would boost up to 10km and then just rain mavs a paveways on you.
The specific issue was they where pushing night battles, so not only did the IR maves have a considerable lock range advantage in day battles, the Kh29s could not be used at night at all
which is why some people myself included said that the KH-29 with IR seeker should be added instead of the KH-38, if any 38s are in the game they should be the only SAL ones and only on the Su-34.
i play the premium version and let me say, the play is like the leopards, hunting the enemies
There are only a few darts in this entire game considered “long”. You can see the difference between “Long” and “Short” if you watch the animation of the projectile.
The HSTV-L has a “Long” dart.
The only way the HSTV-L’s APFSDS will spall more is if it gets extra penetration.
As I said before, the HSTV-L’s APFSDS should be on par with 105mm M774. That is the only historical performance of this gun. What we have currently is no more than Gaijin’s denial of US testing.
hmm or maybe no the munnition just to put more power in his cannon