Sir, this a forum.
yeah, i know and it nothing wrong to say the truth.
Thats just false.
The ammo detonation chance is the same as other top tier vehicles. There are bad RU vehicles, and good ones like any other TT. I don’t see anyone complaining about the BT-7M at 2.0 when the BT-5 is reserve and almost as good. You also neeed to give some proof for your claims.
I would also like to remind you that things other than top tier exist.
Yes it was designed to destroy any NATO apcs,ifvs with direct fire. 2s38 is not just your ordinary SPAA like gepard is, and in real live its frontal armor can resist 30mm guns unlike in this game.
2s38 soo huge. HSTV beter
Should it need to.
Just as the Gepards have a belt of APDS should they need to.
It was not designed to directly engage them as its sole purpose.
It was designed as an anti aircraft gun.
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Thats a very funny claim considering we dont see any armor improvement with ERA or better material on 2S38’s armor.
2S38 is nothing but another project that has no proven success or combat history yet in Warthunder it can destroy or cripple anything on its sight.
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Funny how people cry Russian bias, but nobody bats an eye to how the HSTV-L can survive HEAT-FS without getting overpressured, or how the upper plate which is only a few millimeters thick can bounce DM53 at point-blank ranges when the protection analysis shows that it can’t bounce anything. That thing is a broken BIAS menace, and anyone who disagrees is a hypocrite. The 2S38 dies in 1 shot 99.9% of the time, has as really low ready stage ammo, the crew is all placed in a row at the front and the HUGE ammo carousel is right in the middle, center mass shots will kill it always.
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this would also go for any russian light from obj 906 to bmp1 2 etc you do know that right ?
- im sure they removed overpressure years ago…
yes and no, same could be said about any ru tank that eats ammo hits
also i would call 21 or 24 ready rounds not “small”
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I’ve had the “Front” plates of all of the light vehicles bounce my shots because of how angled they are, the armor penetration calculator isn’t a good representation of how things work in the actual game. It can give you an idea of where to shoot but it’s notoriously inaccurate at modeling how the shells and armor behave in match. I used to shoot center mass on 2s38’s but all i’d ever get was yellow or red ammo, the only real way to consistently one shot them is from the side right through all 3 crew; shooting them frontally the fuel tank either absorbs the entire dart or you penetrate and kill just 1 crew. Since your comparing it to the HSTVL, you realize that the 2s38’s ready rack is pretty much the same size as the HSTVL’s entire ammo load; it only gets 24 rounds of apfsds, whereas the 2s38 can carry 148 rounds in any combination of apfsds, aphe, he-vt. And, even though the 2s38 has a smaller gun pretty much all the NATO tanks hulls are made of paper…so there isn’t really anything that the HSTVL can pen that the 2s38 can’t. It can aim for all the same weak points but fires 3 times faster and can more conistently 1 or 2 tap tanks side on with APHE, and it gets scouting, arty, scout drone, IRST tracking for anti-air. I own the 2s38 and it’s downright silly how stacked it is.
man you just have a skill issue
If what all these Russian copers say is true you would see a lot of HSTVL’s per game. Do you? No. Why? Its trash. It under performs and is over tiered. Some of these guys in this thread have clearly never played the HSTV-L and it shows. Where are all the 10 kill HSTVL games? You dont see any. In fact its more like 5+ assists if anything because the round wont pen a tank to kill it. You can disable a tank and shoot its barrel. Then you can try to dump your ammo into it to kill it. Last I checked the S238 didnt have to empty its entire ammo pool to try to kill 1 tank. Why? Because its under tiered lol.
Beyond 8.0 is a Russian rigged Carnival game full of cope.
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For the kills its more about the BS ERA of the T-80s that eats rounds, especially HTSV-L rounds, and how 2S38s can front-kill an Abrams because gaijin refuses to fix the turret ring being a massive empty space small rounds can pen
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yes it has
As someone who plays USA, Russia, Germany and Japan, the HSTVL is far more annoying than the 2S38.
The amount of times I’ve shot the HSTVL and barely hurt anything in it is astonishing.
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Shh don’t let them know, you will hurt their feelings
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Its Russian, or better yet, eastern tank design bias… plain and simple. The HSTV-L should only be .3 BR higher than the 2s38 at most taking into account its mobility and gun depression. The HSTV-L does not have a HE-VT round or target tracking like the 2s38, if it had that, you could justify it being .7 BR higher than the 2s38. The HSTV-L sitting at 11.3 while the 2s38 is at 10.0 just shows why this game should never earn labor of love on Steam. If Steam has a labor of bias, then I’ll vote War Thunder to the number 1 spot. If they wanted true balance the 2s38 would be 10.7 and the HSTV-L would be 11.0 right now.
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its not called High Survivability Test Vehicle for nothing. And besides, 2S38s have trolly bs fuel tanks that absorb all shrapnel anyway.
lol
HSTV-L is faster, smaller, with over 50% more pen.
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at 1/3 the rate of fire, loaded with less than 1/4th the total ammo load, without option to use HE-VT or APHE, or optical aircraft tracking and still does identical post-penetration damage to darts for 40mm guns despite documentation stating the 75mm should be identical to 105mm guns at a minimum.
Conveniently ignore all of the downsides and the HSTV-L is a million times better! Hooray for lies of omission!
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