How we could balance the SRAAM and add it to higher tiers

Having watched a few videos now and played a few games since the update was just released and the SRAAM almost seems OP for 9.7 and how most planes at the BR don’t even have flares.

If you read the Wikipedia article on SRAAM then you will see that there is 2 versions of the missile referenced, SRAAM 75 and SRAAM 100.
The SRAAM was also meant to be a modular missile that can go on any airframe.

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This means that we could get SRAAM on more aircraft like aircraft like the British Phantoms or Harriers and more but if the current (recently buffed) weapon gets nerfed into the ground again, there will be no point in using it on higher BR aircraft.

So why don’t we have 2 versions like previously mentioned.
The current SRAAM is renamed SRAAM 75 and a new, higher BR SRAAM 100 is added with all the features that the SRAAM had IRL; like an All-aspect seeker, 5km of range, high manoeuvrability and properly working TVC similar the ASRAAM, AIM 9X, etc.

What do you guys think of my idea?

Edit 1: I am not saying that the current SRAAM (SRAAM 75) should go up in BR but that a separate missile should be added that has stats on par with AIM 9L (this is a ruff over simplification of the comparison between the two) with TVC controls. That is primarily what the SRAAM 100 is, a thrust vectoring AIM 9L without proper control fins.

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Im not even sure it was historically mounted on GR.1 harrier, let alone “any airframe

IIRC the baseline is that documents needs to show that aiframe was comptabile with missile, which in case of SRAAM, good luck finding any.

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not even just airframes, specific version of airframe
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Ah, that was exactly what I had in mind but couldnt find the damn picture. I should bookmark it.

Ngl, SRAAM on F-5 sounds like a good way to make the F-5 relevant.

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bait-tom-hardy

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A F5 for Britain yes, but not anyone else and especially not the F5C. The F5C is the most fictional thing to ever be thought of, nevermind be added to War Thunder

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Tested on the Harrier T.52 GVTOL, very famous Harrier but it might have been tested on the GR.1. If you look at the wiki article, one of the images it shows is a SRAAM by a Harrier

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Might just be an exhibit type thing that didn’t happen the museum is doing but I don’t live even in the same hemisphere and I can’t afford to go to Britain to check.

If someone can go the museum, please take pictures of the entire aircraft and missile

As long as it doesn’t involve sending the Hunter F.6 to 10.0 where it’ll be absolutely worthless. I see theres people already asking for it to go up, but they don’t realise that the F.6 is now FINALLY competitive at 9.7

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Point remains - you need to have documentation showing that SRAAM could be mounted on other planes, like F-5s.

Seeing as there might be some confusion for new people, I’ll be updating my original post soon (next few minutes)

Makes it the perfect candidate + would be a good excuse to put F-5C at 11.0, appeasing both F-5 enjoyers and noob F-5 haters.

Looking at Gajin’s implementation in the past, I think whether it was actually done is more important than whether or not it can. That one Churchill with the hull 75mm could fire AP, but it never did.

The mere thought of the F5C is horrifying but at least that might mean all the F5C amoeba brained donkeys will at least give huge outcry if there 10000g all aspect deleter gets nerfed

Well sky is the limit when it comes to Gaijin implementing things as they please. However, once again

SRAAM was never fired from any other aircraft than Hunter F.6 to my knowledge, and Ive seen photos of it being carried by BAe Harrier T Mk.2/T Mk.4, but not GR.1.

As such I dont see SRAAM being added to any more aircrafts in the future.

Nevertheless Ive just send an email to RAF museum with few questions about SRAAM. If they get back to me, I will post the answer here.

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SRAAM finally good and people want it to go up lol.

Though now that SRAAM is good, I’m interested in AIM-95 coming to the game possibly. Its a lot more powerful than SRAAM, but if only added on higher tier vehicles (F-4, F-14A, etc) I think it wouldn’t be too crazy. Though diffenetly not on F9F or F-86

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Just played a match and it still got defeated by rockets easily. It should stay at 9.7. Also unlike it’s old variation if you fire it while aiming decently away from your target it’ll just lose lock and spin out and self detonate. Old one would literally clip through your plane to get someone and new one not having that hampers it a little.

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And what about the planes it faces without access to rockets or flares?
20G missiles simply should not be at 9.7, full stop.

This makes a whole class of planes free kills.
Lim-5, Yak-28, Yak-30, Taiwanese F-100A, Shenyang F-5, Mig-17PF, Saggitario, Ariete, French Hunter F6, Vartour II B, B-66 and J34 have no means of counterplay besides hide the hot end, which is impossible to do with multiple hunters on the same team. And that’s not even mentioning the amount of planes that have to give up their ability to carry A2A missiles just to carry a few rockets as a flare stand in (said missiles often being the only reliable means for subsonics to deal with things like F-104s).

This is a goofy missile that never entered service, and should not be defining the meta as such.

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Other planes already have unavoidable stuff at 9.7, thats the thing. The t2 runs around with aim9ps being uncatchable to the subsonics(also seperate pylon for rockets to flare certain missiles), harrier has aim9g and flares to defend itself, and then there’s ayit. Like yeah I agree move all these planes up but the problem already exists. Hunter at 9.7 just gives a little competition for British.

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“We need overpowered weapons because two other vehicles have them; it’s OUR turn to club!!!” is a terrible basis for game design and balancing.
The hunter is still an excellent gun platform once it has expended its missiles (to a greater degree than the T-2 and harriers), and has double the missiles.
T-2, Harrier and Ayit should be moved to at least 10.0, but I would not say the T-2 or the harrier are currently meta defining to the degree the 4x SRAAM sled is right now.

If a sole country had an op 9.7 I’d agree with you but when usa(harrier), germany(spsk), japan(t2/f1), france(mirage3/f8fn 10.0 but still) sweden(j35d), israel(ayit) all have options that feast in the slightest downtier make Britain having an option too fine for me.
The t2 might not have 4 missiles but it has rockets which at least counters the hunters missiles. I say give it a few weeks and see on the scoreboard how well the hunters actually do before calling for anything. A lot of people are just playing it cause it’s new.