I need some history lesson of this game because i dont understand why people argue about this topic so much.
They have PTSD from years ago when the Ka-52, MiG-27K, and T-80BVM dominated top tier. The rest are just skill issued players who shoot a T-90M center mass and scream Russian bias. Bonus points for them never playing Russia.
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it was created as a theory because people thought there was a bunch of places where russian vehicles were given significant advantages
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The myth exists because people found bugs and perceived the bugs as malicious ignoring the bugs that impacted the vehicles they played.
After the bugs were fixed, the toxic narrative changed to “They’re just covering up their malice.”
Nation bias myths are a brainrot.
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Didnt 34/85s have significantly higher HP of cannon barrel back in like 2014?
Just saying, it wasnt always a theory
To be fair, there is still pantsir that up until the upcoming patch didnt have equivalent in terms of range (two years by now).
Also anyone can hate me as much as they want for saying this, Kh-38MTs, FnF missile outranging not only other AGMs but also any AA that wasnt Pantsir.
Then the vehicles Magik mentioned, which i think are in the same ballpark of issues - russia got vehicle that was significant jump of capabilities when compared to other nations and it took a while for others to even catch up.
These mostly apply to ground RB .
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There is 2 halves to it.
The first half is unintended, Soviet tank doctrine is well suited for the CQB nature of war thunder. Also a lot of soviet equipment isnt classified and the direct “NATO” equivalents are, so the soviet vehicles tend to be more finished.
The second half is where the Bias comes in. There have been some really… questionable decisions with regard to when and how things were added and it seems to always favour the soviets.
KA-50/52 was so powerful that it forced Heli PvP modes to be removed.
Soviet equipment was really strong (was actually some code that meant soviet tanks blew up a lot less than other tanks, but may have been fixed now)
also when things get added is really dubious. Like the Pantsir and KH-38MT (which btw, doesnt exist IRL, the best AGM in the game, is a paper weapon). Still waiting on equals to both for most nations and that might not be changing much in this update. Pantsir is on course to still be one of the best SPAAs in game.
Also vehicles like the 2S38 are the most highly requested vehicle to get a BR increase every single BR change and it never does. It could easily be 10.7/11.0 but isnt. (and they also have a P2W set of vehicles at that BR too, its kinda insane)
Then you have the “paper” vehicles. Kronstadt was a nightmare when it was first added and it took about a year before it wasnt just destroying anything and everthing and Soyuz coming in this major might be the same again. They seem to have given it every possible advantage they could whilst still being “historically accurate” but there is a lot of things that are entirely at their descretion on the grounds it was never built, like reload speed, and its gunna have one of the better reload rates out of the new BBs. It really really wouldnt suffer if it was just average reload speed.
So… A chunk of the bias is probably just unintended. But there is also a decently sized chunk that cannot be ignored and is hard to see in any other light than just pure bias
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BVM never really dominated anything.
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All lies - here’s the true history…
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Just because something gets attention doesn’t mean it’s that strong. I’ve seen many people complaining about it while they themselves have like 0.6 K/D in it. Makes you think, doesn’t it ?
Naval is filled with paper as that mode have more lenient rules when it comes to that.
Speaking about paper vehicles or fakes, I don’t think anyone comes even close to Germany and Japan in that regard when looking at tank/plane additions.
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Well, I’m still waiting, man a year is such a long time for something so important.
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In my post’s defense, that was related to beneficial bugs getting fixed.
In the context of your post, Mig-29 is still waiting for its dry thrust fuel consumption to be corrected as well as the 400 - 650kph thrust curve to get fixed.
Of course you and I can come up with plenty of reported bugs for hundreds of vehicles we’ve played and investigated.
F-111F’s inside external tanks are finally getting fuel next major.
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Russian bias is real take a look at there undertiered yaks or blantantly fake 45MM cannon round for them
Germany was the extreme handheld baby nation back then and it wasn’t even close.
Some extra barrel HP did not make up for RB with markers in open fields where the Tiger angled 5 degrees would be immune to IS-2s.
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Lot of incompetent player think the russian vehicles is op and not they are the incompetent for the game
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The 45mm shell has been proven real numerous times.
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So not only you dont deny it was there, moreso you justify it with “russia suffered”?
Not confirming it either for normal people extra HP in barrrel doesn’t add or change anything if it can be easily killed from every normal distance.
A) the point isnt if it was 10 or 1000 extra HP. Point is there was an advantage without any proper explanation.
B) point also is that if they did it once what stops them from doing it again?
Russian Bias is not real.
Nor is any “bias”
It is merely a ruse people claim when the hull of a Russian tank magically eats rounds (same happens to all tanks, across all nations). The only bias is people’s selective bias on there vendettas.