How the f&^* do I disable auto-leveling of the aircraft when using mouse and keyboard? No matter what SAS mode I use it still does it

Any time I want to roll or do a banking turn the automatic leveling is completely fucking my ability to maneuver the aircraft because it is constantly trying to keep the wings level. What mystery secret fucking setting do I need to change to stop this shit, its making sim unplayable.

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Can you share your exact control scheme? I play sim with mouse & keyboard and have not encountered this issue with the F6F and P51-C.

These are my sim settings:


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Perhaps you could give these a try and see if the issue persists?

Disable SAS? Or you may also try damping.

This may sound a little stupid, but have you disabled the instructor?

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automatically disabled in sim

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That’s what I thought, but I didn’t know if it would still be enabled when trying to use mouse aim

If SAS mode: manual control doesn’t fix that it might just be the aircraft

if you are flying low then perhaps “auto restrict control of the aircraft near ground”?
“auto trim” might interfere ?
“virtual instructor” ?

could you share more about it? like; when it happens, in what plane, does altitude matter, etc.
Could we get a screenshot of your control settings?

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Instructor is disabled in simulator.

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Use Damping mode instead of automatic level. The only time I use that mode is when bombing.

depending on the aircraft it may level itself off automatically due to aerodynamics

Everything related to the instructor is disabled. I also noticed that you cannot under any circumstances roll the aircraft past 90 degrees, if you do the plane will automatically pitch the ailerons/rollerons in the oposite direction to force the plane back into level flight as soon as you let go of the roll input.

Dude, just fly in damping or manual. It’s the “Toggle SAS mode” keybind thing. I assume you know this since you’re in manual mode by default, so you must’ve switched it to auto levelling by yourself?

Auto levelling is mainly there to help you stay straight for certain bombing applications

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damping and manual control BOTH DO IT TOO, I already said that in the OP title.

They don’t. It has to be another issue, possibly the “control mode” you’re in?

full real controls with mouse joy dude.

No, the “control mode”, it’s 4 steps above “toggle SAS mode”

Also, check roll axis, it could have something to do with “keep value for disabled axis”

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Hmm. I don’t play with m&k so not super familiar.

I think I know what’s causing your issues though. You’re controlling your roll with ‘A’ and ‘D’?

“Mouse Joystick” basically turns your mouse into the joystick, you can see it on your screen as that white dot with 4 white bars around it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTtazyAtqWU&t=1616s (the only guy I know playing with mouse-joystick, you can see him moving the middle white dot around with his mouse).

Is your white dot always in the middle? Maybe it “thinks” your mouse is always centred, and therefor acting as if the planes joystick is centred, except for when you are overriding it with the roll inputs inside roll control?

Try removing those keybinds in roll-control and see if you can steer it with just the mouse

Do me a favor, go into test drive sim, and roll your aircraft inverted then release the stick and don’t apply any inputs. Does your aircraft, entirely without your input, deflect the ailerons/stabilators/elevons in a way that rolls your aircraft back over?