Missiles don’t make up for the lack of nuclear APHE
Only person shilling for gaijin is the one who wants rank 5/6 SPAA to go up to a BR and rank where they cost more RP/SL, which is a long term benefit for gaijin as people are incentivised to buy more premium time and spend more money in order to research it.
Campaigning for a normal Gepard above 8.7 is effectovely shilling for gaijin
Some IFVs like the 685 have a normal tank gun in addition to an autocannon, which can shoot APHE.
Missiles can penetrate way thicker armor much more reliably than the funny APHE belts. With those you’re restricted to odd bits like cupolas. IFVs are faster, have lower profiles, have greater flexibility, and several also get access to anti-air capabilities in the form of HE-VT and radars.
Increasing BR doesn’t increase price.
Thing is, funny APHE belts can nuke som1 from a bad angle across the map in a fraction of a second, and issue 0 punishment for missing.
You might be able to kill more enemies with ATGM, however fighting 35mm sucks 10x more cause your enemy can miss 50 shot and still win just cause 1 single shell hit.
New BRs will sometimes lead to new ranks, as per your proposition to raise all 35mm to top tier, they would also have to go up in rank
Objectively false, and if it were true, I’m sure the Oerlikon R&D department would want a word, since making their 35MM API-T capable of that amount of damage to moderately armoured vehicles would be a major business driver
Well, i switched from IR to Photocontrast lock… Really good SAM.
I’ve been overpressured recently from the front in my T-72M1 by a Gepard that one-shotted me via a singular 35mm AP round, overpressuring my track mud guard at roughly a 5° front angle. I think there’s something with gaijin’s coding that fundamentally breaks or glitches with the super high fire rate APHE rounds found in the 35mm oerlikon cannons and similar weapons, same way I’ve somehow killed the crew of a T-10M through the front turret with a ZSU-23, which shouldn’t be possible in the slightest.
Spaghetti code strikes again
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yeah that’s more a coding issue, since overpressure is still a really buggy feature, and paired with volumetric and the APHE cone changes, most autocannons with decent pen/filler are pretty disgusting
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Yeah this is the main reason the Gepards are OP. They can just inexplicably nuke vehicles they shouldn’t at random.
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I hear america suffers and that their CAS planes make for weak dogfighters.
Behold, 3.7 hellcat facing the 5.0 Ki-84 in a 1 on 1 duel at a lower energy state.
Now, we are watching one of the best hellcat pilots in action but that’s just an argument in favour of the Hellcat: High skill ceiling and he isn’t facing a complete noob either (Glowworn).
Bookworm:
Glowworn:
The Hellcat is outclassed in every metric by the Ki-84, but with judicious energy management and lift vector placement it can do surprising things. The Hellcat’s such an honest plane; she’ll treat you right if you treat her right!
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This is why no1 takes you seriously. You take clips of the best of the best Warthunder players, the cream of the crop, fighting the worst of the worst Warthunder players, and use that to say a vehicle is good.
By your logic the M8A1 GMC should be 6.7 cause Spookston got a nuke in it.
Glowworn is not worst of the worst. If anything, he gets accused of cheating which may or may not be true which further reinforces the claim.
And also, vehicle performance ought be based on people who can fly it competently and with familiarity and expertise rather than people who just flatspin their spitfires until they’re gravely under-BR’d.
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Vehicle performance should be determined by your average player, not your best player. If you want to convince someone that a vehicle is good, then have a bad/mid person play it to show just how good it is. 2S38 is a great example. You see players doing very well in 2S38 despite it being played mainly by noobs buying toptier prems.
You’re talking to someone who thinks that the moment SPAAs are a threat to CAS they’re “op”. Even his second post pretty much tells you that he doesn’t want it to go up for balancing reasons, but so it would effectively be removed.
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Oh, so SPAA B.R. should be lowered a lot
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By the way, where did you get “Worst of the worst” for a guy with over 11 kills to death ratio in the Ki-84?
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I still have to see someone having great stats in 2S38.
Sure
I disagree with this sentiment.
It’s the main reason why the Falcon, with no radar or targeting optics, has been moved up to 8.3. They just made it worse as an spaa by giving it harder air targets, and improved nothing wrt tank killing as the enemies it faces will still be killed by it’s APDS rounds. It’s not like the armor gets thicker from 8.0 to 8.3. The targets that have a better chance of resisting it’s shots (like the Tiger 2, T34 and T32) will now be faced less frequently, if at all.