My conclusion is that the 35mm SPAA are no less OP than any fast firing autocannon wielding vehicles (BMP/BMD/Dardo/Turm III/Moderna/etc…), it’s just the fact that it’s an SPAA doing the killing that annoys people.
Especially with cases of the rapid russian light tanks, the BMP-3 and BMD-4s are in their own right significantly more of a menace than any 35mm SPAAG can ever be, and yet there is far less ranting and raving about those vehicles
idk how i supposed to outplay this
one the second one you could’ve intercepted the missile, theoretically.
However I completely agree, this is bs
Not how that works sadly.
I remember som1 saying smthn about the Yak-9K’s APHE being modeled as an HE with alot of pen rather than an APHE. Something similar could be going on with the 35mms.
If they actually wanted to nerf vehicles like the Falcon, they would put it down in BR, lol. When you get a 7.3 game, it is heavy tank after heavy tank - you actually have to put some thought into position and aiming. When you get a 8.3-9.3 game, it is light tanks galore. Spray and pray and the kills start coming.
XD that’s exactly how it works, most of the radar SPAAGs have gone up in BR gradually, so clearly gaijin does use BR to balance them
Again false, it’s modelled simply as a SAP-HE/APHE round with a fast fire rate, meaning that there is a higher percentile chance that it’ll pen and do damage
Which, is his goal. He’s a CAS main.
The guy thinks that the M163 is an 8.3 worthy AA, I would take their BR suggestions with a grain of salt.
Well i’ve dealt with him in the past, his ‘extensive’ top tier knowledge is just playing squadron tanks and the guy still thinks he is entitled to calling for balancing decisions and strong opinions
Only one I know of that’s moved up is the PZG09. Some of them have even moved down like the M163.
Aww yes, my strong controversial opinion of toptier is a hot mess which should be avoided.
Gepard has gone up, ZA-35 has gone up, all the marksmans have gone up, faclon and DCA have gone up, etc
Most of them used to be far more undertiered
They haven’t moved up in months. There’s many vehicles that Gajin just won’t move up for some reason despite how painfully obvious it is that they’re OP. That’s why VK3002 is still 5.0
They literally just moved the ZA-35 up.
Amazing, they moved up one singular vehicle.
So? You act like they never do it. They do. Stop whining.
If they moved average vehicles that are performing fine at their current BR, up monthly, then said average vehicles would be at top tier before summer next year.
Point stands that they are being moved up, and nerfed in some cases, stop complaining when gaijin is actively agreeing with your opinion and acting on it
The sheer irony here is that the Falcon is currently using incorrect ammunition velocity and therefore penetration - the barrels of its guns and that of the Fox are not the same. I remember reading a post showing proof the Falcon’s APDS should be penetrating around 145mm flat, so even in a 7.3 case the thing would still melt almost every heavy from the sides barring odd cases like the IS-3, IS-4M, and Maus. T95 might also be an issue as only the cupola side of the hull is flat and non-spaced.
And the same correction to its ammunition would make the APHE everyone screams about penetrate considerably more, if the upcoming changes to the Coelian are any indication.
I seriously think there is no practical difference between IFV autocannon light tanks and SPAAGs. If the former is allowed to run around like they own the place at 7.0+, there is no sane justification to artificially curb SPAAGs’ ability to kill tanks in any form.
XD I guess if anyone says the Yak-9K is too powerful and Gajin isn’t doing anything about it, that’s just whining too 🤡.
Ahh yes, “nerfed it” by limiting the APDS belt which wasn’t even the issue to begin with. Gajin shills are honestly wild.
So upon doing just some very simple Google searches, I see that quite literally every high tier autocannon used on SPAAGs is missing APDS rounds (in some cases multiple kinds like FAPDS), and those which do have them are artificially nerfed to tiny emergency ammo counts.
While not APDS, 57mm on the ZSU-57s are missing APCR rounds with the same pen as that on the T-34/57 Mod 1943. Similarly the Ostwinds are missing APCR, as is the Coelian.
With all the IFVs running around like they own the place, I really do not understand why SPAAGs are artificially held back like they currently are. IFVs are better than most tank-killing SPAAGs due to having missiles and sometimes additional guns (BMP-3 for instance), as well as being smaller and faster in most cases.
SMDH…
