How player skill with SPAA effects the CAS problem

That is untrue, there are plenty of ground vehicles I enjoy more than their associated CAS planes.

The Fox, the A.C.I, the Warrior, French autoloaders, the M22, Ka-Chi, Chi-Ri, T-34-85, Oliphant Mk II, AMX-13 (S.S.11), etc

Also your obsession with record checking leads to subjective conclusions, and detracts from the actual discussion. All it really does is show you have no counter argument to what I’m saying so you’re attacking me instead of my argument. Kinda pathetic.

No, it can’t, especially not while it’s doing a bombing run.

Pretty much every bomber, the B-17 might be the exception since its absolutely covered in 50 cals, but especially British Bombers.

You can see an air unit from very far away and prepare for It, ground unit that is also fighting other ground units can’t.

Do I disagree highly, especially when I was being targeted in nuke B29/Tu-4 and still got kills

Thanks for providing context.

There’s only so much you can do while maintaining the lines necessary for an effective bombing run, and getting you to divert from those lines is tactically almost as effective as shooting you down.

As for ground vehicles, they may not have the same lines of sight but they do have cover and angling options. I can’t hide my bomber behind a building or a hill.

A nuke run is a very different scenario than an ARB bombing run. For one you’re a lot lower to the ground and there are fewer planes. For two the planes attacking you are desperate to kill you at all costs with no concern for their survival, very much unlike ARB bombing. This desperation encourages them to fly in a way that is easier for you to shoot them down, in other words it makes them fly incompetently. In ARB a bomber-hunter has the luxury of time and altitude, attacking bomber from below with multiple passes.

I like how he says he could shot down pe-8 with Nashorn’s main cannon as frequently as one does with a bomber tail gunner against ass sniffers, like lol coming from someone who has so much troubles taking out enemy tanks in equal term, maybe my orange cat will believe and even she meows: maybe once in 50 times on a pilot with negative iq who suicide dive

The classic deadly combo, zero accomplishment with unlimited opinions. Lol

Do you seriously not understand how analogies work? Are you stupid? Cause you’re completely missing the point of what I’m saying.

Keep up the Ad Hominem, it just shows your argument is weak.

I can’t hide from plane or angle against in on sands of Sinai ;)

Taking an open top vehicle out on Sands of Sinai is a high risk situation, and if you do it you should be on the edges of the map peaking over sand dunes, not fighting other tanks in QCB.

Doesn’t change the fact that You can’t do anything against the air

That’s what makes taking it out in the open on a map like that such a risk. The dunes can help against other tanks but you’re a sitting duck for planes. At least on a forested map you can hide in the trees and be slightly less obvious.

Honestly though the Nashorn sucks so either get used to it being bad or play something better.

You are the stupid one here, can’t you read that people saying you have like no chance against air units when you are in the Narshorn? People who wants to play this vehicle have their fun continue to get ruined by the air unit, you’re technically asking them to suck it up with solution like “oh who asked you to play open top vehicle haha”, might as well just change your name to Smoothbrain_Horse_Rider as that will fits you more.

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I think its pretty dumb to expect the game to bend over backwards so an objectively terrible vehicle like the Nashorn is artificially made better.

If the only way you have fun is to play the Nashorn then I feel bad for you because its gonna be a rough time. What is it that makes the Nashorn fun anyway?

The only thing nashorn can’t fight back against are planes

and high explosive rounds, and rat vehicles that can flank it, and artillery

For artillery, someone needs to get close.

For other vehicles there is always something You can do, like bomber can prepare for a fighter ;)

Artillery doesnt need to be that close, and what is a Nashorn going to do against an M18 Hellcat that can drive circles around it up close or slap it with HE from any angle it chooses? Heck you can side pen a Nashorn with the 50cal

Obvious that a Nashorn won’t do anything against CAS in general in a 1 vs 1 scenario with both having either bad or perfect conditions. It’s not the correct vehicle class to fight them…Plus this is going soo off topic, nothing related to “Skill with SPAA effects the CAS problem”.

I see nobody even complains about Nashorn getting killed by other ground units? so Nashorn facing an M18 is the same as facing an air unit? stupid analogy bro

Alright I know this is challenging for you but just because I was using an analogy before to compare the shooting down incompetent pilots with a tank destroyer to shooting down incompetent pilots sniffing the back of a bomber doesnt mean everything is an analogy.

In this case I’m not making an analogy. ULQ was saying the Nashorn can fight back against anything that isnt a plane, and I am saying it can’t fight back against an M18 Hellcat that knows what its doing. That isnt an analogy, its a just a statement.

You know, when It comes to playing nashorn prime thing is not allow anything get that close. Not to mention that HE against M18 is really good. Like aiming at the commander and destroying the whole tank ;)

Unfortunately for the Nashorn its very easy to get close to it. Especially when you use main gun smoke rounds to blind it first.