There’s no such thing as a “cas problem” playing cas is fun af
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of course there is no CAS problem if youre the CAS player
i dont even know what i replied to, the chain is like 10 comments deep.
it doesnt matter though because what i say applies in general, you always talk about CAS without specifying low or top tier
simply say what BR youre talking about when you say CAS isnt an issue, nothing has to be “gatekept”
i dont recall you even acknowledging top tier CAS issues, nor specifying what BR youre talking about
you said CAS is a feature, and i said thats pretty obvious, it wouldnt exist if it wasnt a feature
from what i remember, you constantly disagreed with everything i said.
im gonna assume i remember correctly though because of your previous comments about “this isnt what i said” when its exactly what you said (or rather what you wrote)
i dont re-word things, you re-word them for yourself. you never explain your point and your comments are ambiguous. you know many people failed to understand what you meant to say, so maybe the problem isnt with the many people.
i dont need to specify what BR im talking about, because its obvious from what i say to what thread this is (its a top tier thread btw).
on the other hand, youre presumably talking about low tier CAS the whole time, but again, never said its about low tier
i am precise, i read what you say and respond to it.
you write your own comments, so if you want people to know what you think, you actually have to write it as well, instead of just thinking it
@FlyingDoctor this debate is completely pointless, we both know what we meant before, so we can resume talking about CAS but specify what BR or tier its about.
I don’t neeed to, that’s the thing.
Indeed, you’re the one constantly making mention of it… My advice applies to all BRs, regardless, because it’s about not giving up and actually doing what is needed.
I’ve plainly made mention of the way you make out I said things I haven’t. You can claim disagreement all you like, but there’s nothing to agree to if you can’t actually quote me, faithfully, without being stupid about it.
None of anything you quoted me on was what I said…
You also brought in screenshots of our conversation, which took all context out of what was said, because you were that fixated on proving me wrong, that you couldn’t read at all.
You were the one ‘literally’ quoting me with things that were never actually said.
No, you just couldn’t take them for what they were.
Many intentionally make out they can’t understand it, to make jokes and snide comments about how I don’t understand, but I understand absolutely…
Some people here, can’t actually handle someone else having a mouthpiece.
Hence you.
It’s not a top teir thread, stop gatekeeping.
You’re the one making the claims, no-where have I said anyuthing about what BR I meant, because you didn’t push and ask for clarification.
If you don’t understand, then maybe actually ask for clarification yourself.
I think you respond, without actually understanding what’s put to you, hence your reframing errors and constant ‘you literally said’ stupidity.
You’re the only one proclaiming you can’t understand it, because you’re being pulled up on your ‘proving’ me wrong when you can’t even put up what I said without making assumptions.
Ahhh, that’s where I think you’ve gone wrong… This isn’t a debate, it’s a discussion… No wonder you were so fixated on proving me wrong.
Good to know we can put all of this down as a misunderstanding on your part.
well then dont be surprised about misunderstandings and me saying youre wrong
your advice doesnt make the game more playable or the issues less prevalent
should have formulated it better then
the screenshot contained all context. if you were replying to something else, then dont quote a different thing
what are you talking about
nobody intentionally makes out they cant understand. you just cant write text and are surprised about misunderstandings.
do you want to scroll up and read the original post?
its literally talking about top tier SPAA.
are you going to tell me that im “misquoting the original post” now?
and you think i can read your mind and know what BR youre talking about?
i do understand what you say about CAS, but i natually assume youre talking about top tier.
CAS issues are biggest at top tier and this thread is about top tier.
i always respond to what someone says, if they write something wrong or fail to explain their point, its not my duty to spend 10 minutes processing what they said to finally understand it.
i dont make assumptions, which is why i didnt understand certain things you said.
also there were other people who clearly didnt understand you before, so me being the only one is a lie
its a discussion that turned into a debate because of pointless arguments
most misunderstandings are from you, your ambiguous posts and failure to elaborate, and you not reading text to understand what is even being discussed and then chipping in and being wrong
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I shouldn’t have to specify I’m talking about low tier, in a discussion that’s already talking abt low tier.
Actually there was discussion clearly about the Gepard.
tell me you don’t play top tier without telling me you don’t play top tier
GBUs and IR or Laser missiles don’t care for your MBT’s increased mobility
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he wont tell you he doesnt play top tier.
but he will gladly provide real valid working 2025 method leaked tactics to defeat top tier CAS that seem generated by chatgpt at best
How to defeat CAS in War Thunder: The guide
Step 1: Try not to get killed by CAS
Step 2: Try to kill CAS
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I’ve played hundreds of top tier games, so you set the goalpost at thousands, if I’d played thousands it would be tens of thousands.
GBUs and IR/Laser missiles are there, but so are long range SAMs and other anti-CAS measures that force planes to engage from further out, thus necessitating such ordinance.
At the end of the day it doesnt change the fact that you’re salty you died to a plane, and your cries for a tank only mode will continue to go unanswered.
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TO or not it’s just a game, i can adapt
and i play CAS too, from time to time.
I wasn’t crying for a TO mode, i was merely pointing out that :
is an incorrect statement.
You did not play any game in a rank 8 ground vehicle at the time being, so that would be incorrect.
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you played 300 games with a single vehicle with below average performance.
the goalpost would not be moved, its static. a few hundred games isnt enough to form a correct opinion, at least compared to a thousand plus games
we know AGMs exist, its why this thread exists…
your comment isnt helping anyone for or against TO
People are rightfully upset when they die from something they couldn’t counter from the start.
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The issue is that they’re upset they died to something they can counter, and anytime som1 points out how easy it is to counter, they call that person bad. CAS hater arguments and especially TO are just hypocrisy all the way down.
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How do You counter a plane on sands of Sinai when You are in a nashorn and he comes from an angle You can’t shoot at?
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Meanwhile the plane can easily counter Anti-air by just following proper dive bombing doctrine. Drop your bomb from ~800 meters and 60 degrees and you’re only vulnerable for a few seconds. Worst case is if someone is sitting in the line where you’re doing your unloaded low-altitude extension and catch you unaware but that’s just bad luck.
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I’m not even mad, you and Pale_Horse_Rider are inventing a state of mind i’m not currently in
I play CAS from time to time, and i sometime abuse it a bit (namely Rafale)
At top tier you either have to play SPAA or planes to counter the planes (assuming it can counter, which depends on nation and BR), or you have to leave the game. It’s a fact that without TO, you can not continue to play tanks if a plane is up (unless an ally spawns an AA for you, but this is conditional, not guarenteed). The problem is that tanks is the reason many people play Ground forces.
Or in other words, as it currently stands : some people have to play classes of vehicles they do not want to play to counter a certain type of threat, which isn’t the case for air modes for example.
Does it mean i want to see CAS and mixed battles completely gone ? of course not, i personally think it still has a lot of potential and that it should be expanded and improved further
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I doubt anyone wants current GRB to go away, people just want another option to play without combined aspect, just like planes can in ARB.
It, infact, is nothing like planes in ARB.
It’s exactly the same thing.
Standalone mode without combined aspect.